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Marin officials lodge complaint against PG&E

Mucrury News -- Marin County energy officials have filed a complaint with the California Public Utilities Commission over what they claim are attempts by Pacific Gas and Electric Co. to quash their plans to offer an alternative, cleaner energy source to county residents.
The Marin Energy Authority announced the complaint Friday, claiming that PG&E was violating state law by seeking to kill the Marin Clean Energy initiative.

The initiative, a program of the authority, is intended to increase the use of renewable energy in Marin County. It would also place the authority in the position of a competitor with PG&E as a provider of electricity in the area.

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Submitted Mar 14, 2010 By: JOHNNY95206

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Bpers2001 All-Star Author Seattle Posts:735 Points:104,070 Joined:Nov 2009	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 7:50:16 AM Ignore Bpers2001 Report Abuse Big Energy wants no part of research and development of clean, alternative energy sources. This is apparent.
bozo All-Star Author Boston Posts:946 Points:1,333,200 Joined:Feb 2003	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 7:50:05 AM Ignore bozo Report Abuse more power to marin.
Gassed01 Champion Author Toronto Posts:1,751 Points:851,600 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 7:47:04 AM Ignore Gassed01 Report Abuse Protecting turf is not in everyones best interest. New methods need to be encouraged, not discouraged through harassment over legalities.
lpj Champion Author Macon Posts:7,407 Points:1,527,040 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 7:46:49 AM Ignore lpj Report Abuse get it on , too much talk already !!
misterray Champion Author Oregon Posts:2,142 Points:526,990 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 7:46:21 AM Ignore misterray Report Abuse A rat dressed in fine clothing.
beachbumCA Champion Author Riverside Posts:4,069 Points:767,500 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 7:43:32 AM Ignore beachbumCA Report Abuse Looks like bad PR for PG&E.
SpruceGuse2 Champion Author Michigan Posts:4,893 Points:1,492,690 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 7:43:08 AM Ignore SpruceGuse2 Report Abuse And what's wrong with competition?
CharlieC08 Champion Author Colorado Posts:3,827 Points:651,245 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 7:42:19 AM Ignore CharlieC08 Report Abuse Sometimes competition is a good thing.
w4kh Champion Author Riverside Posts:6,876 Points:1,278,470 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 7:40:18 AM Ignore w4kh Report Abuse Competition would make both competitors stronger and give consumers a break. California has a new law that makes California electric utilities pay for all the electricity a consumer generates, so no longer are solar installations "limited" to what installers estimate usage will be, since under the old plan, any excess went to the utilities for free... I am thinking about adding some panels to my array under these new rules...
swlincdrv Veteran Author Lincoln Posts:375 Points:219,115 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 7:40:00 AM Ignore swlincdrv Report Abuse Nice job PG&E.
BartBuzz Champion Author Atlanta Posts:3,938 Points:810,010 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 7:35:53 AM Ignore BartBuzz Report Abuse You got that right FocusGuy.
PhilMils Champion Author Virginia Posts:2,141 Points:453,750 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 7:35:51 AM Ignore PhilMils Report Abuse Let's cheer for Marin County!
FocusGuy Champion Author Seattle Posts:2,116 Points:457,375 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 7:32:48 AM Ignore FocusGuy Report Abuse there are too many lwayers and judges in Calif apparantly.
reb4 Champion Author Chicago Posts:7,529 Points:847,320 Joined:Sep 2004	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 7:32:03 AM Ignore reb4 Report Abuse nice public trust...
spiderjay Champion Author Little Rock Posts:2,250 Points:582,555 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 7:30:27 AM Ignore spiderjay Report Abuse its allllll about the money more more & more
raleightom All-Star Author Raleigh Posts:765 Points:215,710 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 7:29:22 AM Ignore raleightom Report Abuse You need to be a Marin County or Bay Area resident to understand this one. Marin county is filled with educated wealthy progressive but very conservative folks that care very much about controlling their everything. As a result, it is a very beautiful and safe place across the Bay from San Francisco. Too bad they don't have more influence over the remainder of the Bay area.
MightyDude Champion Author Minnesota Posts:5,351 Points:1,675,320 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 7:25:27 AM Ignore MightyDude Report Abuse Now why would they want to do that ? ;)
ttwiw Champion Author Austin Posts:1,994 Points:918,220 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 7:23:06 AM Ignore ttwiw Report Abuse "plans to offer an alternative, cleaner energy source". <-- at what price/KWH?
TommyTraveler Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:3,696 Points:723,005 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 7:19:08 AM Ignore TommyTraveler Report Abuse Competition is good for the customer in the long run.
Zinnoil Champion Author Florida Posts:18,901 Points:2,139,725 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 7:17:18 AM Ignore Zinnoil Report Abuse Great idea, drive PG&E to China.
mk9999 Champion Author Rochester Posts:2,977 Points:696,220 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 7:14:04 AM Ignore mk9999 Report Abuse They are afraid of the competition.
albert2008 Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:2,478 Points:530,910 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 7:10:42 AM Ignore albert2008 Report Abuse what utility wont fight for sole source if they can
madison8359 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:2,890 Points:624,335 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 7:08:48 AM Ignore madison8359 Report Abuse This is typical of power companies. They tend to talk a good economic game to consumers but when push comes to shove they will protect their territory (profits and monopoly) to the end. This type of initiative will become more popular as time and prices increase. Marin County will prevail.
VWC Veteran Author Maryland Posts:378 Points:648,215 Joined:Oct 2004	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 7:08:16 AM Ignore VWC Report Abuse Fair competition is good for consumers in the long run.
techque Champion Author St. Louis Posts:3,892 Points:1,526,290 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 7:07:38 AM Ignore techque Report Abuse sounds like am attempt to sneak public power into the regulated IOU monopoly mix. around here the IOU is constantly gobbling up former Co-Op areas and nobody says a word !@!
Fitwit Champion Author Stockton Posts:2,083 Points:454,220 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 7:06:51 AM Ignore Fitwit Report Abuse And, if the Marin officials win, who pay's the bill? I would expect the utility price cost will go up, the consumer will be paying them.
diatzikis All-Star Author Raleigh Posts:718 Points:196,855 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 7:04:43 AM Ignore diatzikis Report Abuse Doesn't matter if its good for us, if it cuts profits they'll want to stop it.
MRED3 Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:2,260 Points:443,020 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 7:04:33 AM Ignore MRED3 Report Abuse Some more big union push there weight around.
JimL1 Champion Author Phoenix Posts:3,148 Points:386,670 Joined:Jul 2003	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 7:03:56 AM Ignore JimL1 Report Abuse Go for it Marin County. If the corporations that control the supply of our power insist on gouging us, help us eliminate those corporations from power. However, remember the rule, "When the elephants fight, the ants get trampled." Large corporations and government, in this case are the elephants, we the consumers, are the ants. [Edited by: JimL1 at 3/14/2010 9:05:58 AM EST]
THEDodgeman Champion Author Denver Posts:3,073 Points:973,190 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 7:03:48 AM Ignore THEDodgeman Report Abuse BIG DOGS AT IT AGAIN.
gabbygusIN Champion Author Indiana Posts:2,375 Points:597,100 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 7:03:22 AM Ignore gabbygusIN Report Abuse PG&E doesn't want any competition! They don't want to give up the big profits!!
ILVET Champion Author Illinois Posts:9,905 Points:1,964,620 Joined:Jan 2005	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 7:01:03 AM Ignore ILVET Report Abuse Its all about making profit! nothing more, nothing less!
BeaverBilly Champion Author Alberta Posts:4,990 Points:1,577,685 Joined:Feb 2003	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 7:00:30 AM Ignore BeaverBilly Report Abuse Too many opinions for me to keep up.
sivart Champion Author Arkansas Posts:11,928 Points:2,105,030 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 6:59:26 AM Ignore sivart Report Abuse Why local fight on a national network?
Eichhornchen Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,737 Points:534,865 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 6:58:51 AM Ignore Eichhornchen Report Abuse PG&E doesn't want the competition
goldilox88 Champion Author Montreal Posts:2,258 Points:625,555 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 6:58:45 AM Ignore goldilox88 Report Abuse Anyone giving me excess profits? lol.
Lukus Champion Author Halifax Posts:3,504 Points:712,265 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 6:57:58 AM Ignore Lukus Report Abuse PG&E would say they gotta protect their profits.
sdhuper Sophomore Author Toronto Posts:174 Points:68,615 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 6:57:33 AM Ignore sdhuper Report Abuse no one wants to share the profit they are making
KillChain Champion Author Albuquerque Posts:2,264 Points:603,800 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 6:55:05 AM Ignore KillChain Report Abuse I can't comment, about local news.
Metro Man Champion Author Flint Posts:1,991 Points:1,048,725 Joined:Sep 2003	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 6:53:47 AM Ignore Metro Man Report Abuse You need to beware of the utilities.
cableman31 Champion Author New York Posts:4,047 Points:1,071,805 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 6:50:51 AM Ignore cableman31 Report Abuse Obama isn't pushing any alternative prospects except ethanol which is proven no good but most of the politicians bought stock in it and don't want to lose any money.
HawaiianGuy Champion Author Idaho Posts:4,606 Points:2,112,670 Joined:May 2003	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 6:47:23 AM Ignore HawaiianGuy Report Abuse PG&E = "Pacific Graft & Extortion". How aptly named.
DieselKat Champion Author Tennessee Posts:1,721 Points:1,414,575 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 6:42:02 AM Ignore DieselKat Report Abuse It's all about the dollar.
hwmillerster Champion Author Missouri Posts:1,858 Points:499,915 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 6:40:50 AM Ignore hwmillerster Report Abuse PG&E is just another monopoly trying to protect itself.
FMREALTOR Champion Author Florida Posts:1,662 Points:761,645 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 6:40:07 AM Ignore FMREALTOR Report Abuse Let's see who owns a monolpy, almost all cabel, internet and gas, electric compainies nationwide. Competition is good for the economy and consumer. my company even competes with other divisions in the same market.
dar 1 Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,090 Points:212,600 Joined:Jan 2005	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 6:38:37 AM Ignore dar 1 Report Abuse They just want to keep rates high.
QueenMother Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:2,746 Points:1,224,225 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 6:37:22 AM Ignore QueenMother Report Abuse I don't know of too many people who likes competition.
Jarol Champion Author Iowa Posts:3,372 Points:617,035 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 6:35:51 AM Ignore Jarol Report Abuse Government is not efficient in running a business.
weenerdog Champion Author Detroit Posts:4,938 Points:942,870 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 6:35:10 AM Ignore weenerdog Report Abuse Of course they want a monopoly
LocalSpyGuy Champion Author Tampa Posts:2,945 Points:615,320 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 6:32:26 AM Ignore LocalSpyGuy Report Abuse Not surprising is it?
BigDogOH Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:3,547 Points:832,390 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 6:31:45 AM Ignore BigDogOH Report Abuse Monopolys don't like to share power or profit
pnd1 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:1,880 Points:374,755 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Mar 14, 2010 6:28:38 AM Ignore pnd1 Report Abuse Local utilities are often the only "legal" monopoly in the United States. If utility companies had to compete they would end up lowering prices and increasing customer service.