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EPA hints at major auto industry probe of mileage claims

GasBuddy Blog -- When we reported Wednesday that Hyundai and Kia had misrepresented mileage claims on multiple vehicles, we couldn't help but wonder how they were able to put false numbers on sticker prices that are supposedly reviewed and approved by the EPA.

Are those numbers valid? That’s the question motorists – and regulators – are left wondering in the wake of the revelation, last week, that Hyundai and Kia had inflated their own mileage figures by as much as 6 mpg on 13 separate models. The Environmental Protection Agency is apparently getting ready to review other makers’ mileage claims, the Detroit Bureau reports.

Meanwhile, even numbers that meet government scrutiny are coming under question because of the way the auto industry...


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Under_Score
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 10:58:46 PM

Hmmm I bet they're not the only ones. Maybe some of the cars get the good mileage and most don't, like the ones I end up with.
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Timons
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 2:35:54 PM

Automakers are beginning to use deceptive advertising!? (Text does not allow you to detect my sarcasm.)
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keo
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 8:46:35 AM

again?
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captcarl5
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2012 9:03:53 AM

its about time they update the standards
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jamtexFL
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2012 3:48:42 PM

that's the only way to do it is to sanction them... its only right for the consumers
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GLM4205
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2012 6:05:01 AM

I agree with BILL100.
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2012 4:08:06 AM

EPA / Cafe standards have long lost their connection to reality.
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FNB1967
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 7:43:31 AM

Interesting
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Fitwit
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 7:31:22 PM

God only knows.
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Rhino8of8
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 11:16:50 AM

I am not one for 'more government intervention', but the epa was ALREADY supposed to be checking this. They fell down on it. I don't wanna see them adding more requirements or intervention... but rather just get back to doing what they were supposed to in the first place.
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nskmda
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 9:49:20 AM

@Bill100
do u really believe in what u r saying?
this would _only_ work if consumers have all the information and are all educated. which is only distant future ideal situation (if possible at all).

otherwise there would not be so many lawyers in the US.

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nskmda
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 9:47:37 AM

still yesterday's news?
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Bill100
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 8:46:16 AM

Just what we need. More government oversight. Why not just let the markets rule? If one or more manufacturers is posting inaccurate numbers and consumers learn it, consumers stop buying their cars. They lose business and go to bed hungry.

Why do we need government to say "You did wrong! Now we're going to give you a bunch of chances to do right." Market economics will eventually always dictate the ultimate pass or fail marks for any company. Regulation is an unnecessary expense and perhaps unlimited opportunities for forgiveness for companies.

All manufacturers need to do is to build a better mousetrap. Nothing more.

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badbonita
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 8:23:56 AM

Soemthing needs to be done to keep the auto manufacturers - and any other industry - honest but the last thing we need is a further bloated federal government.
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DarthDadJr
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 8:08:42 AM

This is why we need a consumer protection agency...busines isn't looking out for us, just looking for our money.
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DanMtz
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 8:06:24 AM

What a waste. Everyone knows you don't trust EPA mileage estimates.
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 7:53:50 AM

Once again the EPA demonstrates how inefficient a government run bureaucracy can be. I can hardly wait for the IRS to run ObamaCare.
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dr047
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 7:53:37 AM


Most people drive like their butt is on fire and then whine because they're not getting the mileage they should get. .... DUH!
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 7:52:30 AM

Get to the bottom of this.
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nstrdnvstr
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 7:52:20 AM

Look for more fines imposed on all car makers. This is another way for the government to raise revenue (that will be passed on to the consumer) without calling it a tax.
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 7:51:39 AM

Yesterdays story
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 7:51:14 AM

It's about time.
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BillHeatherL
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 7:51:10 AM

it says estimated mpg on the sticker
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 7:51:01 AM

Old news.
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 7:50:58 AM

keep 'em honest
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 7:49:19 AM

your fascist EPA at work.
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 7:48:35 AM

Fuel mileage should be decided by the market anyway.
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 7:47:15 AM

EPA, another industry with a lot of cogs and no action...
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 7:46:54 AM


Disband the EPA.
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 7:46:52 AM

Should have been done much sooner!
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 7:45:11 AM

they should have to reimburse them for this
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 7:45:11 AM

good
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 7:45:11 AM

your fascist EPA at work.
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 7:44:41 AM

netman44 (below) nailed it...
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 7:44:40 AM

Probe away!
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 7:42:01 AM

well, they will give an apology and get away with it. and those who bought these cars just for the mileage would still feel being fooled.
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 7:41:11 AM

Letting the EPA investigate car manufacturers is like letting a fox guard the chicken house
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 7:37:42 AM

ok
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 7:36:49 AM

Old news but still about time
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Sneakers55
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 7:36:49 AM

On Nov 14, 2012 8:21:55 AM, goalie1950 wrote:

>Once again. Old news that people are tired reading about.

Don't whine. You got 25 points for reading it again, and 20 points for whining about reading it again.
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 7:36:18 AM

dump the EPA and save tax dollars
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jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 7:35:47 AM

My 2010 Elantra gets the mpg stated. No complaints here.
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 7:35:43 AM

Abolish the EPA
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 7:35:12 AM

I learned this yesterday right here.
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 7:34:48 AM

On a year round average my Prius is right on the estimated milage, Right at 50 MPG for the first 3 years. Better in warmer weather, less in cold. Very happy with it.
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 7:34:48 AM

It is what it is! Most gas milege is dependant on the driver.
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 7:34:24 AM

Wasteful
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TBecker1415, Great post. I especially appreciate your sense of humor.
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beale055
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 7:33:41 AM

After bailing em out?
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blackberry522
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 7:33:38 AM

Obviously we need people to protect our environment. But the EPA is helping to ruin our country instead.
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