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Toyota, BMW team up on next-generation lithium-air battery

GasBuddy Blog -- Toyota Motor Corp. and BMW Group are working together on next-generation batteries for green vehicles called "lithium-air" as their collaboration, first announced in 2011, moves ahead in fuel cells, sports vehicles and other fields.

According to AP, both sides said the partnership will not involve a capital alliance while spanning a wide range of technologies for green vehicles.

The Japanese and German automakers aim to complete a fuel-cell vehicle system by 2020, and a concept for a mid-size sports vehicle by the end of this year. They will also work together on developing lightweight technologies such as composites, which will help make cars greener.

Is it a peculiar partnership, given the disparity between...

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Submitted Jan 28, 2013 By: PD

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