blupupher

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Houston
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 6:27:28 AM
all diesels are about torque.
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Bearcat500

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 5:37:07 AM
Good but you still have to contend with the veryhigh diesel prices.
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gravityhurts

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 5:24:07 AM
Not for me.
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kkimes

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 11:11:11 PM
"Chevrolet, for example, hasn't offered an American-made diesel compact since the 1986 Chevette."
That was not exactly the high point in American diesel cars!
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NHLiveFree

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 9:44:45 PM
"Higher energy levels of diesel fuel". This crude oil distillate hardly provides these imagined higher levels. Some creative writing by this author must be from the API book of 'Spin'.
Dr. Diesel's engine design is the thing that provides the high torque output, but it is at the expense of lower peak horsepower. A diesel engine is fine as a stump puller and perhaps a snow plower, but at the above premium price this byproduct of gasoline refining sells for in the U.S. it just does not fly.
The poor old Chevette, which had several derogatory nicknames, was miserable with its gas-powered four. With the diesel, it was downright unsafe. The U.S. just does not need another 'let's pretend diesel is clean' diesel powered car.
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treeguy

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Wisconsin
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 9:37:28 PM
I want one...
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Double_Golden

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San Francisco
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 8:18:06 PM
what do you do with torque when you are on the flat surface? unless you live in an area with lots of hill, then you need torque...
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ExplorerWA

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Washington
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 8:00:44 PM
I don't think it will be any better accepted now when considering the higher price of diesel.
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JettaTDI1

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 7:37:35 PM
Had a Cummins diesel in a dodge truck, loved it, lots of power and better mileage than other trucks at the time 1996-99. Later in 2005 bought a VW Jetta TDI diesel and again loved the toque and excellant hiway mileage, sometimes over 50MPG. Only problem was VW has a warranty that stinks. I think that ideal car would be a hybrid diesel that with the electric motor giving great mileage in town and the diesel doing great on the hiway.
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TheSnowstorm

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Montreal
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 7:33:39 PM
Somehow, I don't think that the Cruze diesel could compare to the Volkswagen Jettas, GTIs and Passats with diesel engines. They have been doing it successfully for a much longer time. Even less so to the Mercedes Blue.
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ScottTee

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 7:24:40 PM
They are loud, smell & diesel fuel costs more
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tco9436

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Connecticut
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 7:23:04 PM
junk
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rf6480

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Miami
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 7:22:58 PM
not like the diesel is new to America. They were not accepted when fuel was cheap, now it's the most expensive why would it be any different?
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alkarn

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Riverside
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 7:22:29 PM
Ok.
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dgracing318

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Georgia
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 7:21:53 PM
No thanks
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TDIdave

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California
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 7:21:12 PM
Awesome!
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lpatti1

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Philadelphia
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 7:19:36 PM
Then there will be a diesel fuel shortage?
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midnightsdc

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 7:16:55 PM
Yeah baby!!!!!
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floridakeys

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Columbus
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 7:15:53 PM
Good idea ,however look at the price of Diesel now. What will happen if there is a huge demand for a product that there is little of pr barrel of oil.
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swrestler

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 7:14:58 PM
Not For Me Diesel Is To Expenisve Too..
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OnABudget1

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Salinas
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 7:13:13 PM
To each his own!
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cifuentesab

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Stockton
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 7:09:58 PM
diesel is sometime more expensive than regular gas
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CPGas1815

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 6:19:02 PM
The Chevy Cruze Diesel is not about torque it is a vehicle that is way too expensive.
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yonasb

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Houston
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 4:13:58 PM
that thing is too small
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BossPal

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 4:02:56 PM
better mileage duh, no ethanol in diesel.
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zachlCA

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California
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 4:01:50 PM
Hope it goes better than it did last time.
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Wizrd03

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 3:56:37 PM
GM's previous foray into diesel engines was not very appealing
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pokey2002

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Massachusetts
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 3:54:55 PM
We'll see
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Rednix

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Miami
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 3:54:46 PM
It might help if diesel cost less than gasoline.
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nemoFL

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Florida
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 3:54:00 PM
ok
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tdeaton1

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California
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 3:51:09 PM
Another way to jack up the price of diesel which is already over priced.
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lonewolf_947

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 3:47:55 PM
Interesting article............
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waynemustang

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 3:46:23 PM
Stop the eco-terrorist EPA.
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no8c

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 3:41:33 PM
Thanks for posting this article!
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andpren

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Oregon
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 3:38:07 PM
Americans ignore it.
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silvershark69

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 3:36:24 PM
Diesels today are better, but they are diesels ans are different from gas. They are NOT for every one! They do have some pluses, but they also and I am speaking of todays engines have special needs.
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AKTigger99645

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Anchorage
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 3:28:45 PM
My GMC diesel pulls like a draft horse, and is so quiet you can't tell it's running from 10 feet away.
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JagXKR

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British Columbia
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 3:23:42 PM
The new diesels are nothing like those from the 80's. Most people would not even know that a car had a new diesel as they are super quiet and don't smell like the yesteryear diesel.
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leemun

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Utah
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 3:22:57 PM
Torque for the dorque.
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dbw03

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Huntsville
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 3:18:15 PM
ok.
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unloquacious

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 3:17:50 PM
So it's not necessarily the consumer that wants this car, it seems to have a lot to do with the federally mandated CAFE standards. Not good.
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Ken825

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 3:15:41 PM
Has the stink and the soot been removed. If not, I hope they don't sell many.
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LKnight598

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 3:15:11 PM
It's about time!
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roger1315

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 3:13:08 PM
The price of the fuel is way to high
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Voltus

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Miami
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 3:11:39 PM
and the price of diesel will keep going up
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prassu2012

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 3:10:03 PM
Everything is expensive
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stevencr

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 3:02:45 PM
The price of diesel fuel is not very appealing.
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Alfied

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Riverside
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 3:02:21 PM
Didn't work before, won't work now.
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PathfinderSC

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 3:01:58 PM
May sell good if Diesel prices was down where it should be.
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BAJALRRP

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Tacoma
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 2:59:23 PM
To Soakmonkey: it's the EPA holding us back!
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