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Court says EPA overestimates biofuels production

AP -- WASHINGTON (AP) -- A federal appeals court has ruled that the Environmental Protection Agency is overestimating the amount of fuel that can be produced from grasses, wood and other nonfood plants in an effort to promote a fledgling biofuels industry.

At issue is a 2007 renewable fuels law that requires a certain amount of those types of fuels, called cellulosic biofuels, to be mixed in with gasoline each year. Despite annual EPA projections that the industry would produce small amounts of the biofuels, none of that production materialized.

The court faulted the EPA for setting last year's projections at 8.7 million gallons even though the two previous years had shown no production, and also for writing in the rule that "our intention is to balance such uncertainty with the objectiv

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Submitted Jan 31, 2013 By: bar1035

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,632 Points:1,610,495 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 6:09:56 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse let's just stop using EtOH along w/ subsidies to Pig Oil for blending EtOH into gasoline.
drpepperTX Champion Author Texas Posts:8,950 Points:753,185 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Feb 2, 2013 8:43:47 AM Ignore drpepperTX Report Abuse But when has the EPA done something reasonable like that lately?
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,632 Points:1,610,495 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Feb 2, 2013 3:59:35 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse then take EtOH mandate off the table!
dlemma Champion Author Wyoming Posts:4,111 Points:1,555,995 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 6:53:11 PM Ignore dlemma Report Abuse Get RID of biofuels....
drpepperTX Champion Author Texas Posts:8,950 Points:753,185 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 7:18:28 AM Ignore drpepperTX Report Abuse AnObserver, "What does the Appeals Court know about alternative fuels?" ========================================================== The law.
SkooterG Champion Author Phoenix Posts:1,359 Points:329,335 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 12:19:09 AM Ignore SkooterG Report Abuse Why does our government continue to go 'all in' on ethanol? Idiots.
cssco Champion Author Virginia Posts:7,331 Points:1,752,630 Joined:Feb 2006	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 11:55:40 PM Ignore cssco Report Abuse For the EPA to lie is one thing but, can anyone be surprised the WACHKO's running things in Washington ever do anything but, L I E, CHEAT and/or STEAL. Too deceive is a wonderful thing by the standards of most political WACHKO's.
AnObserver Champion Author New Jersey Posts:8,364 Points:2,259,730 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 10:49:10 PM Ignore AnObserver Report Abuse What does the Appeals Court know about alternative fuels?
ExplorerWA Champion Author Washington Posts:4,088 Points:798,225 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 10:31:54 PM Ignore ExplorerWA Report Abuse When will this stop?
crreed1 Champion Author West Virginia Posts:1,995 Points:2,528,285 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 10:27:17 PM Ignore crreed1 Report Abuse old news
52MPG Champion Author Dayton Posts:7,270 Points:1,742,865 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 10:24:08 PM Ignore 52MPG Report Abuse Breaking news - the government erred / lied....Oh.... maybe it is not new s.
5Golfer8 Champion Author Tucson Posts:2,143 Points:301,625 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 10:22:12 PM Ignore 5Golfer8 Report Abuse It is time to de-fund the EPA.
craigsf38 Champion Author Rochester Posts:5,718 Points:1,511,980 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 10:20:56 PM Ignore craigsf38 Report Abuse What a surprise NOT
pastorpaulcg Champion Author Virginia Posts:3,615 Points:775,785 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 10:19:29 PM Ignore pastorpaulcg Report Abuse I'm shocked that the EPA would be acting disingenuously
CVA19 Champion Author Salem Posts:2,393 Points:610,450 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 10:19:06 PM Ignore CVA19 Report Abuse Unfortunately, congress is either unwilling or unable to reign-in the EPA. That leaves on the courts.
wshokie12 Champion Author Winston-Salem Posts:1,330 Points:217,760 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 10:17:39 PM Ignore wshokie12 Report Abuse No doubt.
HEBster Champion Author Kentucky Posts:8,793 Points:2,375,000 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 10:14:18 PM Ignore HEBster Report Abuse No-Not the EPA!
Brunduski All-Star Author Missouri Posts:534 Points:189,925 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 10:13:23 PM Ignore Brunduski Report Abuse I am shocked. The Government trying to justify spending billions on things that are ridiculous. That way, they can raise taxes some more.
carinthuist Champion Author San Francisco Posts:2,250 Points:331,125 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 10:12:39 PM Ignore carinthuist Report Abuse Youneed to know exactly how much [Edited by: carinthuist at 2/1/2013 12:13:31 AM EST]
silverfox63 Champion Author Michigan Posts:8,125 Points:1,612,690 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 10:11:02 PM Ignore silverfox63 Report Abuse This does not surprise me in the least.
NotLoggedIn Rookie Author Oklahoma City Posts:14 Points:50,655 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 10:10:40 PM Ignore NotLoggedIn Report Abuse ok
jrschl Champion Author Louisville Posts:2,972 Points:682,040 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 10:10:39 PM Ignore jrschl Report Abuse Seems as if the EPA is making more problems and mistakes these days.
Ken2OD Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:9,077 Points:1,972,915 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 10:10:26 PM Ignore Ken2OD Report Abuse Liars get caught sooner or later.
obimerrill Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:1,445 Points:290,690 Joined:Jul 2012	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 10:10:18 PM Ignore obimerrill Report Abuse We need to get rid of the EPA...they are doing our country more harm than good!
carloco75 Champion Author Richmond Posts:3,721 Points:602,215 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 10:09:06 PM Ignore carloco75 Report Abuse My re-action should be "Shock"...or should it?
JasTheAce All-Star Author Raleigh Posts:980 Points:174,285 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 10:08:45 PM Ignore JasTheAce Report Abuse hmm
Toppers Champion Author Atlanta Posts:9,022 Points:2,472,645 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 10:08:35 PM Ignore Toppers Report Abuse Don't doubt it...
boatfloyd Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:1,728 Points:389,925 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 10:07:43 PM Ignore boatfloyd Report Abuse I can't believe it.
rahcat Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:2,478 Points:664,150 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 10:07:34 PM Ignore rahcat Report Abuse Defund and dismantle the EPA.
unicornpmb Champion Author Buffalo Posts:8,496 Points:1,630,490 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 10:07:21 PM Ignore unicornpmb Report Abuse They should know.
RAKARWOWSKI Champion Author Chicago Posts:4,005 Points:822,000 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 10:06:10 PM Ignore RAKARWOWSKI Report Abuse obummer said he would save the planet.
ican2step Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:1,686 Points:428,375 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 10:05:13 PM Ignore ican2step Report Abuse A government bureaucracy is wrong? Say it ain't so.
N5EXY Champion Author Austin Posts:5,502 Points:1,511,580 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 10:04:33 PM Ignore N5EXY Report Abuse EPA is a bunch of - - - - it.
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johton Champion Author Seattle Posts:1,220 Points:313,140 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 10:03:30 PM Ignore johton Report Abuse They overestimate most items.
snagged Veteran Author Akron Posts:396 Points:111,430 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 9:59:19 PM Ignore snagged Report Abuse Lies
Dragnet Champion Author Arizona Posts:15,411 Points:2,909,735 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 9:53:54 PM Ignore Dragnet Report Abuse EPA is just another bunch of lying politicians. They are noted for that!
carloco75 Champion Author Richmond Posts:3,721 Points:602,215 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 9:53:39 PM Ignore carloco75 Report Abuse Extra Pathetic Agency...
1Boog Champion Author Lincoln Posts:5,981 Points:1,202,875 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 9:51:14 PM Ignore 1Boog Report Abuse of course they did....and especially in a drought year!!
Doomsday64 All-Star Author Austin Posts:869 Points:337,980 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 9:47:57 PM Ignore Doomsday64 Report Abuse EPA is a waste!
Spankster85 Champion Author Chicago Posts:1,734 Points:358,040 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 9:47:08 PM Ignore Spankster85 Report Abuse What else is new?
VikingWoman Champion Author Washington Posts:1,283 Points:253,615 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 9:43:40 PM Ignore VikingWoman Report Abuse Everyone was really excited about this at first. Restaurants had to lock up their used grease. People were converting old water heaters to make bio-diesel and then poof - not so popular. There were a few explosions when systems failed too. Now we have this big health kick going on with people being pressured to eat less fried food so it means less used frying oil for conversion to bio-diesel. go figure.
FlyNFool Champion Author South Carolina Posts:8,249 Points:1,686,175 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 9:39:52 PM Ignore FlyNFool Report Abuse Really?
SpankyMI Champion Author Kalamazoo Posts:2,718 Points:761,230 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 9:39:37 PM Ignore SpankyMI Report Abuse This is why we don't need the EPA.
Vitobug Champion Author El Paso Posts:1,955 Points:641,435 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 9:39:25 PM Ignore Vitobug Report Abuse of course
mrbee Champion Author Little Rock Posts:3,763 Points:2,467,560 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 9:39:07 PM Ignore mrbee Report Abuse EPA = crooks.
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bvrbill Champion Author Eugene Posts:3,229 Points:519,825 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 9:33:31 PM Ignore bvrbill Report Abuse No more ethanol.