honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 3:58:28 AM
overall lots cheaper to make engines for the US market in the North American region.
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honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2013 5:04:25 AM
good for Ford (though I still won't by one).
Obviously, global economic conditions are deteriorating. Let's move all production back to the US and get the country into better shape again).
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SUVFan

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Columbus
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 8:58:28 AM
Hats off to Governor Kasich and his administration for creating a job friendly climate here in Ohio. This is the first good news I've heard associated with Brook Park in many years.
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Canucktree

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Alberta
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 8:16:05 AM
Have to vote on other news!!
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afghaned

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Hamilton
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 12:22:00 AM
Great for jobs.
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HawaiianGuy

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Idaho
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 12:13:03 AM
Another winning "move" by Ford! Spain is already in enough trouble as it is.
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EssexAdri

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Jacksonville
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 11:52:20 PM
shipping those engines over here after they are (hopefully soon, "were") built in Spain cost how much?... How much fuel is the ship carrying them going to burn through just on the trip from Spain to here? having just retired from 20 yrs in the navy, I have made that trip several times over the yrs, and I'll tell you, "its a lot" and marine fuel is by no means cheap. Then add in the expense of the crews for those ships, for the loaders & unloaders, the docking fees, support services (trash & sewage offload when arriving in port),...etc...etc...etc... the Laws of Economics & Logistics dictates that these cost will eventually be rolled into the cost of the product to the consumer. There is no "legal" way for it to be or have been cheaper to manufacture these engines in Spain and then ship them here than it would have cost to just build them here to begin with. Companies outsourcing like this are taking "kickbacks" from foreign companies & governments to do their business there, and then using tax code loopholes to write off the excess cost on their taxes. Simply put, the companies (or high ranking individuals in the company) are getting money &/or perks "under the table" and then the company takes a deduction on their taxes for the extra incurred expenses, and then "double-dips" by padding the cost into the finished product. It all sounds like a big conspiracy theory, but in truth, its just how the companies play the system against itself to make higher profits on cheaper products. So what's the sudden change? for starters, more people are paying attention to how high their taxes are, and are complaining. Lawmakers are making changes to the tax laws, closing loopholes in the system. doing that on a business level is easier to hide than on individuals, because people are more concerned about defending their own tax deductions than caring what businesses can do, and the businesses aren't going to raise too much of a stink about loosing some of their "bag of tricks" for fear of the public learning of them and the bottomline profits they make after all is said and done. 2ndly (and becoming more of an impact), people are actually starting to care about where the products they consume are being manufactured. Not out of any sense of patriotism, but because every foreign product represents a job they themselves could have had, if they product was manufactured here. This is definitely prevalent with high cost products that use to be manufactured heavily here in the US.
As a final point, a few hundred jobs created here is a drop in the bucket compared to what these companies need to do. They need to quit playing "Scrouge" and get back to creating thousands of jobs at the time. I'm actually disappointed to see people getting excited over a few jobs created here, a couple dozen there, a couple hundred here, 450 there. In the past 10 years, we have lost over "8 Million" jobs in the US. These "drop in the bucket" numbers of returning or new jobs is akin to a line of Martin Sheen's in the movie Apocalypse Now, "...we cut the in half with a machine gun, and then patched them up with a band-aid, and sent on their way...". We need thousands of jobs at the time. The major companies and corporations of the country need to wake up to reality. If we don't have jobs, then we can't keep buying what they're selling. Regardless of where they make it.
[Edited by: EssexAdri at 2/22/2013 1:56:59 AM EST]
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mcmonsta

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Honolulu
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 11:27:46 PM
if it means more USA jobs...hell yes and welcome back!!!
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Nshmidt

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New York
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:56:37 PM
Welcome back home!
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Buddy2264

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:54:38 PM
Good more "made in the US" and more jobs returning.
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jep39

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California
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:45:43 PM
My first vehicle was a Jeep made by Ford with a four cylinder flat-head engine. I believe it was an AJ civilian model made before WWII.
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liao

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Montreal
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:41:49 PM
Good for Ohio.
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Tigercat88

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:40:18 PM
Hooray for FORD!!!!!!!
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10k

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:38:26 PM
soros ain't gonna like this..
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ican2step

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Pittsburgh
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:37:57 PM
Okay
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jcubed

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:36:52 PM
About time!
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VikingWoman

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Washington
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:36:05 PM
Good news for American jobs, tough rocks for Spain.
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PrinceLH

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:35:02 PM
Good for them!
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RAE344

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Virginia Beach
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:30:47 PM
Europe is abandoning Ford, so Ford is abandoning Europe.
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scrapbasket

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:28:08 PM
Bring jobs back to the USA.
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unicornpmb

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Buffalo
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:27:50 PM
That's a start.
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mlmeng

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:26:54 PM
Good for Ford. Good for America.
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badharley

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:26:31 PM
Would not buy a Fix Or Repair Dailey.
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unclenorman

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:25:48 PM
Anybody out there remember when Ford built engines in Canada? The Windsor 390 V-8 was powerful and efficient.
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jetskijerry

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:25:10 PM
good for Ford
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boatfloyd

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Jacksonville
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:23:53 PM
Buy an American Ford.
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KrsnaDragon

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Montreal
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:23:42 PM
Old 'news'.
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J Eric

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:23:17 PM
With the higher percentages of Latino workers in the US, I guess it makes sense; workers in Ohio can speak Spanish!
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mfeldstein

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Ottawa
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:22:10 PM
Good for American jobs.
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Cableman66

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:22:02 PM
Ok.
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shopnshop

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:21:18 PM
cheaper to make here
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ricebike

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:21:12 PM
good for Ford!
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wshokie12

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Winston-Salem
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:21:07 PM
Good, we need more manufacturing jobs.
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CCLighthouse

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Hartford
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:17:24 PM
We used to be the manufacturing giant! Bring it back!
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crreed1

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West Virginia
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:17:06 PM
we need the jobs
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TheeRedRam

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Hartford
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:16:32 PM
It is a start
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jkpsr

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:15:06 PM
Ford does it again. What about the 3 cylinder diesel engine?
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CivicMA

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Boston
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:15:01 PM
Good for the local Ohio economy.
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pastorpaulcg

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:14:38 PM
good for ford
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ScottTee

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:14:12 PM
good for Ohio, please hire some more republicans
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BobD2009

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Long Island
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:13:43 PM
That's great. Ford is an excellent company and makes a good product.
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tedjm1

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New York
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:13:01 PM
Too much back & forth on mileage. They currently do not try to meet the real 50mpg. What they are doing is stop-gap./
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Rooster922

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Wilmington
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:12:55 PM
Well . . . really
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singlemom27

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Ventura
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:11:52 PM
Wow! That's great news...I remember that plant at full capacity in the 60s and early 70s.
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pa79th

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:11:41 PM
Ford again make a move that says it is a stong American corporation. Good for Ford!
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TravisTuxy

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Louisville
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:09:46 PM
WTG Ford!
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obimerrill

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:09:21 PM
Excellent news from the company that didn't need Obama to bail them out!
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Matt G

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Boston
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:09:18 PM
Sounds good to me
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sjhman

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:08:49 PM
America!
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regout

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Quebec
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 10:08:44 PM
Good for USA. More jobs. Bad for Spain.
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