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Fuel taxes more effective than CAFE standards for cutting consumption, MIT says

Landline Magazine -- A White House plan to reduce gasoline consumption 20 percent by 2050 through fuel economy standards for vehicles will cost six- to 14 times more than simply raising the gas tax, a researcher at MIT says.

Research by Valerie Karplus of the MIT Joint Program on the Science and Policy of Global Change compared the cost of Corporate Average Fuel Economy, or CAFE standards, with the cost of increasing gas taxes to reduce consumption. Her research appears in the March edition of Energy Economics.

“First, a fuel economy standard is shown to be at least six to 14 times less cost effective than a price instrument (fuel tax) when targeting an identical reduction in cumulative gasoline use,” Karplus wrote.

The research pertains to light vehicles and not heavy trucks or diesel fuel, but some of ...

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tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:32,934 Points:2,342,585 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Mar 15, 2013 12:43:50 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse Fuel taxes more effective than CAFE standards for cutting consumption! The higher the fuel taxes and the higher the cost of fuel, the more people will consider higher mpg vehicles. It's a matter of how much money do you want to spend to get to where you want to go. Of course, there's always the pickup that is designed to carry large or heavy loads, carry a persons materials as his job truck OR pull a trailer of various sizes. Mostly, I see a daily driver pickup with only one person in it and carrying or pulling nothing. Go Figure! Just make sure every vehicle pays their fair share to maintain the roads and bridges. I.E. - EV's, Inbreds, heavy trucks, etc. etc. etc. Drive vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. The price of fuel at the pump is too high!
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,590 Points:1,606,595 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 3:53:18 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse hmmmm... and that study cost how much?
SkooterG Champion Author Phoenix Posts:1,359 Points:327,835 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Feb 24, 2013 2:03:07 AM Ignore SkooterG Report Abuse Interesting.
Alaydown Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:5,098 Points:820,470 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:03:03 PM Ignore Alaydown Report Abuse There is nothing new here. Both Obama and his Energy Secretary Chu have both said they wanted gasoline prices here at "European levels" ($8-10 per gallon) to "encourage conservation." They would prefer though to get the price higher through taxes. Expect Obama to again propose a carbon tax and other taxes on gasoline before he leaves office. [Edited by: Alaydown at 2/24/2013 1:03:47 AM EST]
rahcat Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:2,453 Points:660,025 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 10:18:23 PM Ignore rahcat Report Abuse Taxes, taxes and more taxes.....thanks Obama.
OGW Champion Author London Posts:5,324 Points:1,529,650 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 10:13:08 PM Ignore OGW Report Abuse Were already taxed to death, raise the mileage standards even higher.
sjhman Veteran Author Atlanta Posts:409 Points:274,375 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 10:12:40 PM Ignore sjhman Report Abuse interesting
Cableman66 Champion Author North Carolina Posts:2,100 Points:487,995 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 10:12:14 PM Ignore Cableman66 Report Abuse Old news.
Bud122CA Champion Author California Posts:7,456 Points:1,603,150 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 10:11:55 PM Ignore Bud122CA Report Abuse The best way our "Pres" can change the way we are going is to start drilling and pumping. The open more area for refining
viperND Champion Author South Bend Posts:3,295 Points:733,015 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 10:07:22 PM Ignore viperND Report Abuse bah
RAE344 Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:3,049 Points:658,595 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 10:07:19 PM Ignore RAE344 Report Abuse If fuel prices won't reduce consumption until it was three times the cost, then additional fuel tax won't help unless it is so high it destroys the economey.
cheaper0ON All-Star Author Ontario Posts:968 Points:395,130 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 10:06:14 PM Ignore cheaper0ON Report Abuse Taxes kill.
weenerdog Champion Author Detroit Posts:9,446 Points:1,881,965 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 10:05:31 PM Ignore weenerdog Report Abuse of course they'd say that
southrob Champion Author Tucson Posts:3,585 Points:685,150 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 10:05:10 PM Ignore southrob Report Abuse dhan for a better economy
ramshot412 Champion Author Riverside Posts:20,132 Points:2,463,140 Joined:Apr 2004	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 10:05:02 PM Ignore ramshot412 Report Abuse "The problem is that the Republicans fed the carrots to the "job creators" and all they got were larger bowel movements." Exactly.
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,776 Points:410,615 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 10:02:16 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse Jeez, @MAC48. Paranoid much? How about increasing vehicle mileage to reduce your fuel costs? What's so wrong about that? If you want to screw up the planet, that's fine but why would you want to waste money while doing it?
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,776 Points:410,615 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 9:59:44 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse What do you consider carrots, @DEG? Tax cuts? The problem is that the Republicans fed the carrots to the "job creators" and all they got were larger bowel movements.
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,776 Points:410,615 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 9:57:34 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse Oh, sorry @clermont40miles. We forgot that, as usual, you already have all the answers.
btex49 Champion Author Austin Posts:2,705 Points:528,155 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 9:57:20 PM Ignore btex49 Report Abuse President Obama will never be accused of having a better idea!
DarthDadJr Champion Author Virginia Posts:7,297 Points:1,518,045 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 9:56:45 PM Ignore DarthDadJr Report Abuse I buy that...
lowspeed All-Star Author Akron Posts:701 Points:196,405 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 9:56:31 PM Ignore lowspeed Report Abuse more taxes?
BREW9 All-Star Author Tampa Posts:866 Points:2,908,955 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 9:56:04 PM Ignore BREW9 Report Abuse ok
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,776 Points:410,615 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 9:56:01 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse "he proposes the guvvermint rip you off for." Wow, @vibdata was that even English? Please try to string together a few coherent thoughts before you start typing.
weenerdog Champion Author Detroit Posts:9,446 Points:1,881,965 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 9:52:25 PM Ignore weenerdog Report Abuse how nice
nimpy Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:8,120 Points:1,698,080 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 9:50:25 PM Ignore nimpy Report Abuse This is interesting
bston Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:1,800 Points:639,025 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 9:48:44 PM Ignore bston Report Abuse Class warfare.
vibdata Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:4,079 Points:847,350 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 9:24:15 PM Ignore vibdata Report Abuse MIT people are supposed to be smart. SUPPOSED TO BE is the operative expression. My vote goes to the MIT professor who will pay the beeeellions and beeellllions of dollars he proposes the guvvermint rip you off for. To line his pockets, of course.
jrsva Champion Author Virginia Posts:9,835 Points:1,610,075 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 9:17:40 PM Ignore jrsva Report Abuse Lindalm hit it exactly right. We are going to need both taxes and CAFE standards to maintain the highway system and control consumption.
bevmill Champion Author Georgia Posts:2,562 Points:597,295 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 9:15:27 PM Ignore bevmill Report Abuse Somehow this makes sense
Brucevanf Champion Author New Brunswick Posts:1,341 Points:241,360 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 9:09:47 PM Ignore Brucevanf Report Abuse No kidding also good at stalling the economy
abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:7,907 Points:1,571,955 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 9:09:27 PM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse No kidding
I10Express Champion Author San Antonio Posts:8,654 Points:1,637,045 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 9:05:18 PM Ignore I10Express Report Abuse duh
lindalm25 All-Star Author Indianapolis Posts:530 Points:143,300 Joined:Dec 2012	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 8:55:59 PM Ignore lindalm25 Report Abuse I fear we are headed for both of these and they will include significant costs. No one will back off the CAFE standards and the increased mileage will force raising the fuel taxes for roads.
CostControl Champion Author San Antonio Posts:13,359 Points:2,028,450 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 8:53:00 PM Ignore CostControl Report Abuse Rich People Talk with no earthly idea of the TOTAL IMPACTS of such a plan! GDP, Jobs, Food Prices, Inflation, Costs For Goods & Services were not FACTORED in at all! Class Warfare folks...CLASS WARFARE!
mysub Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:8,896 Points:2,327,540 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 8:50:07 PM Ignore mysub Report Abuse WIPACKERFAN,knows this? The idiot is behind it.
clermont40miles Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:10,548 Points:1,768,870 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 8:49:21 PM Ignore clermont40miles Report Abuse Pretty obvious these clowns have no clue what they are doing. Stop the madness.
singlemom27 Champion Author Ventura Posts:3,093 Points:636,185 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 8:46:39 PM Ignore singlemom27 Report Abuse true
jjjleblanc Champion Author Rochester Posts:5,862 Points:1,516,380 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 8:45:36 PM Ignore jjjleblanc Report Abuse And disposable income, jobs, gdp.
wang91554 Champion Author San Jose Posts:3,150 Points:1,197,805 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 8:44:31 PM Ignore wang91554 Report Abuse yes, but which one is more palatable to voters? Normally apathetic voters, that is...
DEG Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:17,605 Points:3,491,680 Joined:Jul 2003	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 8:43:09 PM Ignore DEG Report Abuse The government should learn to use the carrot approach instead of stick approach on everything.
jalan25 Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:2,325 Points:567,920 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 8:39:53 PM Ignore jalan25 Report Abuse Fuel taxes will not equalize the impact of alternative fueled vehicles to maintain highways.
us4usa Champion Author Missouri Posts:5,976 Points:1,109,385 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 8:36:59 PM Ignore us4usa Report Abuse Post from last Article: That's why we need higher Federal gas tax to repair the roads... Because Florida wasted it on Sunday's Dayton 500...
geoutpb Champion Author Midland Odessa Posts:4,608 Points:1,063,285 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 8:33:02 PM Ignore geoutpb Report Abuse gasoline taxs needs to go up just to pay for all the roads that need to be built and repaired.
gsofrs Champion Author Greensboro Posts:4,138 Points:1,213,765 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 8:30:33 PM Ignore gsofrs Report Abuse More taxeson the way.
AKmailman Champion Author Alaska Posts:5,618 Points:1,554,640 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 8:28:52 PM Ignore AKmailman Report Abuse Echo ".....I will not raise taxes on the middle class "
Marson Champion Author Scranton Posts:8,932 Points:2,075,235 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 8:28:32 PM Ignore Marson Report Abuse Money talks.
WILDCAT112 All-Star Author South Carolina Posts:902 Points:175,450 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 8:28:25 PM Ignore WILDCAT112 Report Abuse All these studies and nothing ever comes of any just love the grant money
SRcyclist Sophomore Author San Diego Posts:125 Points:883,225 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 8:27:57 PM Ignore SRcyclist Report Abuse Makes sense
camel1 Champion Author Minnesota Posts:8,255 Points:2,263,590 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 8:24:24 PM Ignore camel1 Report Abuse likely true, but we need a much fairer based "road usage fee" than the gas tax. Also, mpg needs to be improved and we need to encourage use of alternative transportation
MAC48 Champion Author Dallas Posts:1,546 Points:763,345 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 8:21:53 PM Ignore MAC48 Report Abuse Remember folks that a primary objective of the environmental activist groups is to get/force/persuade the public to reduce their use of vehicles in order to reduce our use of fossil fuels, to reduce the real or perceived contaminants released into the atmosphere by less domestic vehicle miles driven per day and to get/force/persuade the public to greater and greater use of public transportation such as busses, light rail, bicycles, etcetera. Convincing the public to allow a significant increase in the motor vehicle fuel tax burden at the Federal and state levels will accomplish the goals of the environmental activist groups.