Bearcat500
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 5:36:31 AM
Refinery maintenance causes gasoline prices ti rise. I guess there was never any refinery maintenance in the 1950s-1973 and in the late 1980s to the early 2000s. In those times gasoline prices were constant whether refineries were in full operation or whether some had refinery maintenance. This is just another excuse to get the American consumer to bend over once again.
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tomok
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 12:25:41 AM
Global demand, refinery maintenance cause gasoline prices to rise in Oklahoma? It's the same all over the US, high fuel prices. When the refineries are down for maintenance or an upgrade, they are still producing fuel. There should be No shortage of fuel at the pump!
Summer demand, Winter demand – No Difference in supply, still the same high prices!
Big Oil and Big Gas sells fuel and natural gas on the world market for higher prices.
The US ‘oil and natural gas resources’ belong to the citizens of this country and are to be used by those same citizens! The price at the pump needs to go down to $2/gallon - *$3, *$3.50/gallon or *$4.00 is Not the new low!
More Refineries are Not the answer, Stop exporting fuel is!
Take care of the domestic fuel market first and above all else!
Drive vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money.
The price of fuel at the pump is too high!
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2013 5:57:54 AM
time to crack down on Pig Oil's game of creating artificial fuel bottlenecks so that prices can remain inflated.
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Mar 2, 2013 5:15:27 AM
maintenance in OK and fire in TX. Get ready for higher prices in the Midwest at least.
(Igg2: I drive both diesel and gas engine vehicles. Definitely true for all fuels).
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eyegotgas2
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Message Posted: Mar 1, 2013 5:15:14 AM
There is no doubt refinery maintenance is being used to influence fuel prices.
I have seen it in the diesel refineries as well.
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Mar 1, 2013 4:01:21 AM
awww.. if prices ain't high enough, go drive 'em up with maintenance.
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gasseddup
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 8:26:05 PM
no new refineries until BOENHER kills the EPA!
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gasseddup
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 8:22:09 PM
hows come wyoming and montana are ALWAYS the lowest! aint that CHENEY country? and maybe it's the PALIN effect on oil comapnies, GOIN ROGUE! or OIL and NRA are in cahoots?
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skybiker
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 4:33:35 AM
It's BS..There is no shortage of gas in the US!
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jrs4125
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 3:52:55 AM
.37 in one day in my area. Let me off this roller coaster ride.
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granitestater
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 11:04:32 PM
It takes about two months to convert a facility to produce and then refine enough product to send out to the distributors. By then the remaining winter grade product will have sold out. This year demand is down and there should be enough leftover supply to carry into summer. By then summer-grade supplies will be filling the tanks and pumps. Trying to predict the exact changeover date is harder than predicting the hole card of a blackjack dealer...
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granitestater
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 10:57:27 PM
"Speculators" do not control the value of oil contracts. Prices are set on the market floor by traders working the buying/selling of orders placed by refiners as the need arises.
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unicornpmb
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 10:32:59 PM
Every year at this time it is the same thing.
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RAE344
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 10:32:55 PM
Heard this story before, nice cover up to a run up in price. It you print it enough, someone will believe you.
[Edited by: RAE344 at 2/27/2013 12:33:42 AM EST]
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TIGERPAW46
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 10:31:22 PM
It has nothing to do with low supplies or US demand. That's just an excuse for the speculators etc to push the prices higher. Why should they sell Petroleum products from the US to the US when the Gov. allows the speculators to buy futures with a fraction of the value as down Payment. Then the US gov. Allows Export of the products to another country, at a higher price than they can sell them in the USA. The USA has been a net exporter of oil & diesel for the past year. Now they also want to be allowed to export Nat. Gas so they can charge more for it also.
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10k
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 10:24:35 PM
lol Badjef-so true..
silver: it's $4 everywhere in north carolina ;(
[Edited by: 10k at 2/27/2013 12:25:39 AM EST]
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silverfox63
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 10:24:10 PM
Just another excuse to jack up the prices. I have never seen $4 a gallon gas in February here in Michigan ever.
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5Golfer8
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 10:23:58 PM
The crooks are running wild and Obama is just letting it happen.
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Badjef
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 10:23:15 PM
BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!!
Maintenance is something that is planned. A refinery shutting down for maintenance would have refined enough product before shutting down.
BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!!
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jethro5000
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 10:23:14 PM
Ditto Badjef
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Badjef
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 10:22:50 PM
BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!!
Maintenance is something that is planned. A refinery shutting down for maintenance would have refined enough product before shutting down.
BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!!
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Badjef
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 10:22:29 PM
BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!!
Maintenance is something that is planned. A refinery shutting down for maintenance would have refined enough product before shutting down.
BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!! BS ALERT!!!
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TheBill
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 10:22:08 PM
It's all about the greed, nothing more.
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crreed1
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 10:21:22 PM
old news
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sjhman
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 10:21:18 PM
of course
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KrsnaDragon
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 10:18:57 PM
Old 'news'.
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Doomsday64
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 10:18:51 PM
ok
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Constame
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 10:18:30 PM
Every time I get gas the price has gone up 10 cents.
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mfeldstein
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 10:16:48 PM
We need more refineries in every region.
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Rooster922
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 10:16:34 PM
Wow!
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Cableman66
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 10:16:27 PM
OK.
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LilRedWagonIN
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 10:13:08 PM
Oh, so that's the reasons why it went up ten cents yesterday.
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tedjm1
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 10:12:30 PM
Storms are no help either.
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wshokie12
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 10:12:12 PM
Yep.
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rahcat
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 10:09:47 PM
Went up to $3.99 here yesterday.
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PaylessKY
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 10:08:59 PM
Fuel prices are going up everywhere.
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CiVX
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 10:08:42 PM
Not OK for Oklahoma.
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regout
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 10:08:21 PM
Another reason. More and more reasons to increase the price of oil.
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PrinceLH
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 10:07:58 PM
We are being robbed!
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HawaiianGuy
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 10:07:09 PM
With the price of crude being what it is, there is no good reason for prices at the pumps to skyrocket as they have.
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Quick68
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 10:05:29 PM
Another excuse.
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boatfloyd
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 10:04:49 PM
Plus they like making money.
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ManOfLeisureII
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 10:04:12 PM
If you ain't got an oil well.......git one.....
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rippinusoff
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 10:03:20 PM
thieves
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DrZNY
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 9:57:32 PM
Yeah right?
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CityCouponer
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 9:57:18 PM
The real reason… GREED.
[Edited by: CityCouponer at 2/26/2013 11:57:57 PM EST]
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Trowinsamoan
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 9:57:08 PM
More B S
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AKmailman
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 9:56:46 PM
that's a good excuse as any
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WIWalt
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 9:56:25 PM
Not only Ohio WI. too
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vrossi46
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 9:55:28 PM
sympathies to all who live in Oklahoma
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