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I-93 speed warning appears, crash follows

Eagle-Tribune -- A new driver safety message debuted yesterday on Interstate 93 south, but another crash disrupted the morning commute anyway.

The New Hampshire Department of Transportation, responding to recent complaints about crashes slowing the commute, posted the message on an electronic message board at mile marker 5.2, south of Exit 3.

“High incident area — slow down,” the message cautioned drivers.

“It started this morning,” DOT’s Pete Stamnas said. “It will be running weekdays from 6 to 10 a.m.”

The message may be displayed elsewhere along the highway.

“We are also considering placing the message on other boards in the area,” Stamnas said.

Stamnas, the NHDOT official managing the $800 million I-93 widening project, moved to get the message up in response to complaints over recent crashes fr


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Submitted Feb 15, 2013 By: NHLiveFree
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SUVFan
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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2013 9:51:09 AM

> It is a dangerous combination of driving must too fast for the conditions at hand, tail-gating in rush hour bumper to bumper traffic, plus inattention while using the cell phone, reading the newspaper, drinking coffee, eating, doing makeup for work, and the list goes on!<

As I posted initially, the signs do no good and as NHLiveFree's statement quoted above demonstrates, contrary to initially saying I was "completely wrong", I was spot on saying that the sign focuses on the wrong problem. Speed alone is not the problem. Speed, in combo with all those other things, is a problem. But telling people simply to slow down but ignoring all the other things they are doing wrong, won't solve anything. And though I've never driven I-93, I doubt my experience on roads like it differs from what happens there: Drivers will park themselves in the left lane at or below the speed limit causing congestion. Even if they are traveling over the limit, unless they are passing someone, they need to get over and let faster traffic move on. Blocking traffic flow is a much worse sin than moving above an arbitrary speed limit.

Workzones present a different set of issues. While some contend that speed is the problem, and it certainly contributes, all of those other factors that NHL listed are even more troublesome in speed zones and poorly thought out construction sites invite disaster. More attention needs to be paid to the actual site and the worksite needs to be laid out to protect the workers. Organize the work to minimize danger. Don't count on signs to do the job. Patrol the area if speed is really the issue and the zone can't be designed around it. Install temporary traffic lights at one spot in the zone to allow construction traffic to exit the zone onto the freeway. Fire, or at least fine construction workers who fail to follow security rules. If these things are not done, lowering the speed limit to 45 mph will not avoid accidents and a dumb sign telling folks to "slow down" will accomplish nothing.

[Edited by: SUVFan at 2/16/2013 11:52:46 AM EST]
lesndave
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 9:38:13 PM

Hope it helps, but it may just be one more distraction/ another sign to try to read while driving.
dave27johnson
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 7:11:30 PM

It should help. It's a start.
endymion
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 6:03:19 PM

Following too closely is almost expected on NYC roads.
MidNJ
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 4:26:20 PM

This area is right over the Mass border. Perhaps at this time of year there are many skiiers from southern areas driving to the slopes. . . and I wish many who are not good skiers would slow down too.
NHLiveFree
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 4:08:56 PM


Completely wrong SUVFan. In the case of I-93, the NH DOT knows the problem and explained in another new article just days ago that the average speed on this highway is 82.5 mph. The posted speed limit is 65 mph, while in construction areas, like the one noted here, it is 55 mph. It is a dangerous combination of driving must too fast for the conditions at hand, tail-gating in rush hour bumper to bumper traffic, plus inattention while using the cell phone, reading the newspaper, drinking coffee, eating, doing makeup for work, and the list goes on!

I-93 is the busiest highway in NH and also the most congested. It is south of its largest city of Manchester. The state police coverage of this Interstate has been sparse ever since it opened in the early 1960s as the nearest state police barracks is over 20 miles away in Epping, NH. It has finally dawned on state traffic officials that they require intensive police coverage on the congested soutern end of I-93.
PDQBlues
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 3:04:13 PM


Bummer when that happens. One cannot legislation against stupidity.
DanMtz
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 1:06:43 PM

Hey, they were right.
bston
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 12:47:27 PM

How about a subliminal message?!
SUVFan
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 9:34:21 AM

Right there with 85XJ, though it's tough to text and read signs at the same time.

These signs work about as well as the no gun signs work on buildings. And like the no gun signs, they focus on the wrong problem.

Speed by itself is rarely the issue. In fact, the slow drivers in the left lanes are probably the number one issue. All the left lane parade makers do is cause folks to switch lanes as they go around the parade maker, often trying to squeeze into small spaces.

MOVE OVER!

Ticket the left lane parade makers -- heck, I think I might actually support a traffic cam that was used exclusively for that!
Skunk63
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 8:09:26 AM

Crash ahead. That's an order.
85XJ
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 7:38:36 AM

The driver was probably too busy reading the warning messages.
George0446
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 7:07:22 AM

Just another instance of throwing money at a problem that should be solved in other ways.
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 6:48:24 AM

Not all drivers can read.
MKAnudo
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 6:32:44 AM

Safety first.
BEGTWO
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 6:24:41 AM

Some people don't know how to drive and read! It only takes one to slow traffic down!
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 6:15:16 AM

I guess not all the illegal citizens (undocumented workers) can read fluently or sufficiently enough to discern whether or not to obey the speed limit or to slam on the brakes and have someone plow into you.
matman01
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 5:21:01 AM

Speed kills...be careful!
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 5:11:49 AM

Slow down.. start your commute a little earlier
MImusicman
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 4:58:06 AM

It's hard to stay away from stupid...and continually watch for other people's careless driving
SUPERSTEVIEO
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 3:34:26 AM

unfortunately, there are too many drivers that think accidents happen to only other people... and as such, do not heed the advice.
heydano67
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 2:02:57 AM

best to be a defensive driver
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 2:00:16 AM

Watch out for that crash you're about to have....
52MPG
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 12:50:12 AM

No mention of the speed limit.
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 12:15:11 AM

crazy drivers
cheapertvs
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 12:11:05 AM

Interesting!

Gasoline prices?
CarefreeVT
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 12:10:35 AM

Eyes off the road or paying attention driving .... old news
DEG
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 12:07:05 AM

Pay attention to the road and the traffic.
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 12:06:09 AM

At least they didn't say they were distracted reading the sign!
garman87
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 12:03:50 AM

Some people don't need to think so much; just drive people.
LuckyLou1
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Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 11:57:41 PM

Good idea read the sign and don't watch the road another moronic idea brought to you by your local government officals
gasaholicNC
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Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 11:56:56 PM

the sign Should read...."tailgaters beware"
Matt G
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Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 11:56:32 PM

Sounds good to me
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Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 11:55:55 PM

People need to learn how to drive.
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Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 11:55:13 PM

yep
dcoxdcox44
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Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 11:50:09 PM

gotta tailgate, 'cause I'll get there 15 seconds sooner!
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Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 11:49:36 PM

Between texting and road signs there are too many distractions.
UseLessGasFolks
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Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 11:46:30 PM


How can they see that while they are texting?
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Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 11:44:25 PM

some can't read english...
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Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 11:43:21 PM

Some can NOT read english...... but yet they have a drivers license. Go figure!
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Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 11:40:59 PM

Some can't read.
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Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 11:40:15 PM

The price for recklessness
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Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 11:37:06 PM

TO LITTLE TO LATE I GUESS?
alterman156
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Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 11:36:59 PM

There are plenty of high incident areas on many of the Interstate highways.
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Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 11:32:23 PM

Rush hours. Scary places.
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being stupid is a big disadvantage.
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Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 11:29:22 PM

oh it happens
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Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 11:27:13 PM

How much will the NH DOT be fined for texting?
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Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 11:26:32 PM

It is highly unlikely that the drivers involved in accidents will ever become NASCAR stars.
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Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 11:25:24 PM

lol
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cool
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