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I-93 speed warning appears, crash follows

Eagle-Tribune -- A new driver safety message debuted yesterday on Interstate 93 south, but another crash disrupted the morning commute anyway.

The New Hampshire Department of Transportation, responding to recent complaints about crashes slowing the commute, posted the message on an electronic message board at mile marker 5.2, south of Exit 3.

“High incident area — slow down,” the message cautioned drivers.

“It started this morning,” DOT’s Pete Stamnas said. “It will be running weekdays from 6 to 10 a.m.”

The message may be displayed elsewhere along the highway.

“We are also considering placing the message on other boards in the area,” Stamnas said.

Stamnas, the NHDOT official managing the $800 million I-93 widening project, moved to get the message up in response to complaints over recent crashes fr

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Submitted Feb 15, 2013 By: NHLiveFree

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SUVFan Champion Author Columbus Posts:13,923 Points:1,634,550 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Feb 16, 2013 9:51:09 AM Ignore SUVFan Report Abuse > It is a dangerous combination of driving must too fast for the conditions at hand, tail-gating in rush hour bumper to bumper traffic, plus inattention while using the cell phone, reading the newspaper, drinking coffee, eating, doing makeup for work, and the list goes on!< As I posted initially, the signs do no good and as NHLiveFree's statement quoted above demonstrates, contrary to initially saying I was "completely wrong", I was spot on saying that the sign focuses on the wrong problem. Speed alone is not the problem. Speed, in combo with all those other things, is a problem. But telling people simply to slow down but ignoring all the other things they are doing wrong, won't solve anything. And though I've never driven I-93, I doubt my experience on roads like it differs from what happens there: Drivers will park themselves in the left lane at or below the speed limit causing congestion. Even if they are traveling over the limit, unless they are passing someone, they need to get over and let faster traffic move on. Blocking traffic flow is a much worse sin than moving above an arbitrary speed limit. Workzones present a different set of issues. While some contend that speed is the problem, and it certainly contributes, all of those other factors that NHL listed are even more troublesome in speed zones and poorly thought out construction sites invite disaster. More attention needs to be paid to the actual site and the worksite needs to be laid out to protect the workers. Organize the work to minimize danger. Don't count on signs to do the job. Patrol the area if speed is really the issue and the zone can't be designed around it. Install temporary traffic lights at one spot in the zone to allow construction traffic to exit the zone onto the freeway. Fire, or at least fine construction workers who fail to follow security rules. If these things are not done, lowering the speed limit to 45 mph will not avoid accidents and a dumb sign telling folks to "slow down" will accomplish nothing. [Edited by: SUVFan at 2/16/2013 11:52:46 AM EST]
lesndave Champion Author Texas Posts:3,042 Points:702,130 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 9:38:13 PM Ignore lesndave Report Abuse Hope it helps, but it may just be one more distraction/ another sign to try to read while driving.
dave27johnson Champion Author Chicago Posts:1,788 Points:409,345 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 7:11:30 PM Ignore dave27johnson Report Abuse It should help. It's a start.
endymion All-Star Author New York Posts:837 Points:173,635 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 6:03:19 PM Ignore endymion Report Abuse Following too closely is almost expected on NYC roads.
MidNJ Champion Author New Jersey Posts:7,559 Points:1,173,100 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 4:26:20 PM Ignore MidNJ Report Abuse This area is right over the Mass border. Perhaps at this time of year there are many skiiers from southern areas driving to the slopes. . . and I wish many who are not good skiers would slow down too.
NHLiveFree Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:11,095 Points:1,623,180 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 4:08:56 PM Ignore NHLiveFree Report Abuse Completely wrong SUVFan. In the case of I-93, the NH DOT knows the problem and explained in another new article just days ago that the average speed on this highway is 82.5 mph. The posted speed limit is 65 mph, while in construction areas, like the one noted here, it is 55 mph. It is a dangerous combination of driving must too fast for the conditions at hand, tail-gating in rush hour bumper to bumper traffic, plus inattention while using the cell phone, reading the newspaper, drinking coffee, eating, doing makeup for work, and the list goes on! I-93 is the busiest highway in NH and also the most congested. It is south of its largest city of Manchester. The state police coverage of this Interstate has been sparse ever since it opened in the early 1960s as the nearest state police barracks is over 20 miles away in Epping, NH. It has finally dawned on state traffic officials that they require intensive police coverage on the congested soutern end of I-93.
PDQBlues Champion Author San Diego Posts:7,079 Points:1,449,300 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 3:04:13 PM Ignore PDQBlues Report Abuse Bummer when that happens. One cannot legislation against stupidity.
DanMtz Champion Author Oakland Posts:3,355 Points:1,243,325 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 1:06:43 PM Ignore DanMtz Report Abuse Hey, they were right.
bston Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:1,825 Points:643,250 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 12:47:27 PM Ignore bston Report Abuse How about a subliminal message?!
SUVFan Champion Author Columbus Posts:13,923 Points:1,634,550 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 9:34:21 AM Ignore SUVFan Report Abuse Right there with 85XJ, though it's tough to text and read signs at the same time. These signs work about as well as the no gun signs work on buildings. And like the no gun signs, they focus on the wrong problem. Speed by itself is rarely the issue. In fact, the slow drivers in the left lanes are probably the number one issue. All the left lane parade makers do is cause folks to switch lanes as they go around the parade maker, often trying to squeeze into small spaces. MOVE OVER! Ticket the left lane parade makers -- heck, I think I might actually support a traffic cam that was used exclusively for that!
Skunk63 Champion Author Phoenix Posts:2,559 Points:559,310 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 8:09:26 AM Ignore Skunk63 Report Abuse Crash ahead. That's an order.
85XJ Champion Author Toledo Posts:5,611 Points:1,281,740 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 7:38:36 AM Ignore 85XJ Report Abuse The driver was probably too busy reading the warning messages.
George0446 All-Star Author Massachusetts Posts:503 Points:232,035 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 7:07:22 AM Ignore George0446 Report Abuse Just another instance of throwing money at a problem that should be solved in other ways.
USMCturtlehead Champion Author Lexington Posts:2,017 Points:104,675 Joined:Feb 2013	Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 6:48:24 AM Ignore USMCturtlehead Report Abuse Not all drivers can read.
MKAnudo Sophomore Author Maryland Posts:213 Points:170,250 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 6:32:44 AM Ignore MKAnudo Report Abuse Safety first.
BEGTWO Champion Author Maryland Posts:1,947 Points:725,115 Joined:Sep 2010	Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 6:24:41 AM Ignore BEGTWO Report Abuse Some people don't know how to drive and read! It only takes one to slow traffic down!
doeslayersr Champion Author Illinois Posts:9,121 Points:872,980 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 6:15:16 AM Ignore doeslayersr Report Abuse I guess not all the illegal citizens (undocumented workers) can read fluently or sufficiently enough to discern whether or not to obey the speed limit or to slam on the brakes and have someone plow into you.
matman01 Champion Author Detroit Posts:14,844 Points:1,961,810 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 5:21:01 AM Ignore matman01 Report Abuse Speed kills...be careful!
STTUSVI Champion Author Durham Posts:2,566 Points:737,190 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 5:11:49 AM Ignore STTUSVI Report Abuse Slow down.. start your commute a little earlier
MImusicman Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,878 Points:408,650 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 4:58:06 AM Ignore MImusicman Report Abuse It's hard to stay away from stupid...and continually watch for other people's careless driving
SUPERSTEVIEO Champion Author Quebec Posts:3,523 Points:787,115 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 3:34:26 AM Ignore SUPERSTEVIEO Report Abuse unfortunately, there are too many drivers that think accidents happen to only other people... and as such, do not heed the advice.
heydano67 Champion Author California Posts:1,671 Points:358,510 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 2:02:57 AM Ignore heydano67 Report Abuse best to be a defensive driver
Seamus4513 Champion Author Orange County Posts:2,583 Points:387,330 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 2:00:16 AM Ignore Seamus4513 Report Abuse Watch out for that crash you're about to have....
52MPG Champion Author Dayton Posts:7,267 Points:1,742,680 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 12:50:12 AM Ignore 52MPG Report Abuse No mention of the speed limit.
gmcgas Champion Author Atlanta Posts:5,958 Points:1,715,145 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 12:15:11 AM Ignore gmcgas Report Abuse crazy drivers
cheapertvs Champion Author Richmond Posts:10,290 Points:2,742,695 Joined:Jan 2004	Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 12:11:05 AM Ignore cheapertvs Report Abuse Interesting! Gasoline prices?
CarefreeVT Champion Author Burlington Posts:1,806 Points:259,555 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 12:10:35 AM Ignore CarefreeVT Report Abuse Eyes off the road or paying attention driving .... old news
DEG Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:17,625 Points:3,495,680 Joined:Jul 2003	Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 12:07:05 AM Ignore DEG Report Abuse Pay attention to the road and the traffic.
Mowerman08 Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:4,760 Points:1,217,995 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 12:06:09 AM Ignore Mowerman08 Report Abuse At least they didn't say they were distracted reading the sign!
garman87 Champion Author Austin Posts:3,256 Points:2,374,490 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 12:03:50 AM Ignore garman87 Report Abuse Some people don't need to think so much; just drive people.
LuckyLou1 Veteran Author Colorado Posts:420 Points:181,320 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 11:57:41 PM Ignore LuckyLou1 Report Abuse Good idea read the sign and don't watch the road another moronic idea brought to you by your local government officals
gasaholicNC Champion Author North Carolina Posts:1,214 Points:1,449,955 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 11:56:56 PM Ignore gasaholicNC Report Abuse the sign Should read...."tailgaters beware"
Matt G Champion Author Boston Posts:4,538 Points:2,774,015 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 11:56:32 PM Ignore Matt G Report Abuse Sounds good to me
badharley Champion Author Tampa Posts:1,030 Points:741,285 Joined:Jul 2010	Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 11:55:55 PM Ignore badharley Report Abuse People need to learn how to drive.
rippinusoff Champion Author Lexington Posts:7,403 Points:1,488,525 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 11:55:13 PM Ignore rippinusoff Report Abuse yep
dcoxdcox44 All-Star Author New Hampshire Posts:642 Points:201,960 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 11:50:09 PM Ignore dcoxdcox44 Report Abuse gotta tailgate, 'cause I'll get there 15 seconds sooner!
BobD2009 Champion Author Long Island Posts:6,994 Points:1,240,760 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 11:49:36 PM Ignore BobD2009 Report Abuse Between texting and road signs there are too many distractions.
UseLessGasFolks Champion Author Iowa Posts:5,451 Points:1,296,825 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 11:46:30 PM Ignore UseLessGasFolks Report Abuse How can they see that while they are texting?
vulcan96 Champion Author Ohio Posts:26,926 Points:3,104,650 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 11:44:25 PM Ignore vulcan96 Report Abuse some can't read english...
Settjec Champion Author Little Rock Posts:1,984 Points:687,970 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 11:43:21 PM Ignore Settjec Report Abuse Some can NOT read english...... but yet they have a drivers license. Go figure!
madison8359 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:9,031 Points:1,594,270 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 11:40:59 PM Ignore madison8359 Report Abuse Some can't read.
Cothrom Champion Author South Carolina Posts:1,761 Points:726,555 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 11:40:15 PM Ignore Cothrom Report Abuse The price for recklessness
luwachris Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:1,082 Points:224,370 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 11:37:06 PM Ignore luwachris Report Abuse TO LITTLE TO LATE I GUESS?
alterman156 Champion Author New York Posts:7,490 Points:1,558,500 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 11:36:59 PM Ignore alterman156 Report Abuse There are plenty of high incident areas on many of the Interstate highways.
quasar502 Champion Author Lansing Posts:3,588 Points:802,325 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 11:32:23 PM Ignore quasar502 Report Abuse Rush hours. Scary places.
danol43 Champion Author Modesto Posts:1,705 Points:590,190 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 11:29:56 PM Ignore danol43 Report Abuse being stupid is a big disadvantage.
moregas1966 All-Star Author Columbus Posts:705 Points:139,555 Joined:Dec 2012	Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 11:29:22 PM Ignore moregas1966 Report Abuse oh it happens
VikingWoman Champion Author Washington Posts:1,275 Points:252,640 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 11:27:13 PM Ignore VikingWoman Report Abuse How much will the NH DOT be fined for texting?
sprocketsplines Champion Author Washington Posts:1,687 Points:861,615 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 11:26:32 PM Ignore sprocketsplines Report Abuse It is highly unlikely that the drivers involved in accidents will ever become NASCAR stars.
roadrunnerMO Champion Author Kansas Posts:8,411 Points:1,700,440 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 11:25:24 PM Ignore roadrunnerMO Report Abuse lol