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Keystone’s Tar Sands Waste Said to Warm Climate More Than Coal

Bloomberg -- Refining Canada’s oil sands into gasoline may speed global warming more than previously estimated after accounting for use of a waste product, which can be burned like coal.

Opening a new front in a fight to persuade President Barack Obama to reject the Keystone XL pipeline, which would carry oil sands from Alberta to the U.S. Gulf Coast, environmental groups yesterday released a study that found refining the heavy material will create 5 billion tons of petroleum coke, or petcoke, that’s used by power plants, aluminum factories and steel mills

Compared with coal, petcoke is cheaper and releases more carbon dioxide when burned. Much of the U.S. supply is exported.

“Petcoke is the coal hiding in the tar sands,” said Lorne Stockman, research director for Oil Change International, a


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LetemEatCake
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 8:54:23 PM


Good article, thanks for posting!
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Some "fools" don't realize that it is all destined for China from any port that the Alberta developers and processors can get it to BurtB.

There are no 'tar sands' operations in Venezuela silcrette! You are either reading oil shills misinformation here or the API press releases. Venezuela's 'heavy' crude is not derived from tar sands.

Good question merlinCO. They simply want a port to ship it all to Asia and any port will do!

Amen LeeFree. So glad you did not believe NedW's dellusional comment. Follow the money and you may find another shill.
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NHLiveFree
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 9:05:50 PM


It gives the 'gift' of pollution twice over. First when an equal amout of energy from natural gas must be burned to heat up and melt the tar sands bitumen and then again after the caustic tar sands crude is refined to be utilized as gasoline, diesel, etc. Not a clean or pretty process at all.
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 8:34:43 PM

Whatever
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 8:15:41 PM


Funny, if you don't agree with the article then its spin, spin, spin! If you do it is gospel. From Gods mouth to your ears! It is obvious that y'all know more than Jon Morgan!

GEEZ!
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 6:36:09 PM

Whether petcoke is burned domestically or abroad, it is still burned and carbon dioxide emitted into the earth's atmosphere. I don't see how that's going to affect global warming (if you believe in such a thing).
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 9:58:22 AM

Man, the "I hate gas" crowd is working really hard to stop the pipeline.

These fools don't realize that if the oil does not come to the USA for refining, it will go to China.
So the Tar Sands will get processed into oil, regardless of whether they stop the Keystone pipe line or not.

The only difference is that the Pipeline will lower gas costs in the USA, and provide JOBS!
JOBS! High paying JOBS!
Some people with masters degrees don't care if other Americans have good jobs.
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 9:43:01 AM

I have no doubt that in future years that tar sands will be viewed as the biggest environmental catastrophe in history.
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i sure could use some today
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 9:25:42 AM

IMHO, I note that the left always attacks Canada's tar sand oil but never mentions heavy crude tar sand oil from Venezuela that is shipped across the warm waters of the Gulf of Mexico.

When Chavez fired the skilled oil workers and engineers in the Venezuelan oil fields, Venezuela could not use latest, safest methods, therefore Venezuelan tar sands are much "dirtier" than Canada. But Socialist Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT) wants to stop Canada.
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Why doesn't Canada just refine it????
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politicians talking causes wild weather
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yawn
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Spin, Spin, Spin; opinions and predictions are like Belly-Buttons, everyone has one.
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Yeah yeah yeah
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Let's get rid of all the environmental rules so we can live and die like the Chinese in smoggy cities with polluted water.
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Synthetic crude oil from the Alberta tar sands -- crude, or crud..?
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Hey, Earth worshippers! Gaiah is calling you to Mexico, China and India. You've done enough damage to this economy.
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It doesn't take a new study to convince me that environmental groups (greenies) want to stop ALL fossil fuel consumption now.
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whatever. just keep the jobs here.
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does this water taste funny to you?
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point out a US city with the air blanket that China has
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OK
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That's ok, since it's about 10* outside right now.
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Nice news in a cold day.
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vamike> LOL
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Well let's just keep the coal miners in a job.....
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Great now we have to listen to more crap
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Interesting.
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Where is Al Gore?
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DID we not already say NO to this? TOO?????
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The coal sector is probably happy about the report.
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Lets go back to clean coal and increase the use of natural gas.
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Somebodys going to use it
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What did this cost?
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There needs to be a better balance.
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I wonder how much this study cost us?
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Obama does not want american jobs
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To me it all speculation again.
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The crazy greens and idiot EPA at work again
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Isn't this amazing, global warming on a very large scale? What about that hellfire pit in Russia that they can't put out?
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Somewhere in the middle is the truth.
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Watch the global warming fence sitters start moving now.
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I am not a fan of snow and cold. I'm ok with a warmer climate.
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ok
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whoever buys it will use it... so what difference is there ...
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Is it too much to ask for just ONE (1) gasoline article?
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and again i agree with AvantiMick.
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Look, there's no stopping the extraction of the oil. Either it comes to the US or it goes to China. Wacko environmentalists will stop at nothing to keep us from obtaining energy independence. Just import the oil already.
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BS!!Obama wants to be sure we keep buying oil from his friends....Arabs.
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