LetemEatCake

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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2013 4:40:01 PM
Sounds like deja vu for the BIA. The very same thing happened in Northern OK.with the Osage tribe about 40 years ago with numerous companies including the Koch brothers..
The article says, "Reservation lands are still held in trust by the U.S. government. As a trustee, the Department of the Interior has responsibility for overseeing the development of oil and gas on tribal lands, and for ensuring that any leases or sales of that land are made in "the best interest" of the Native Americans. When it comes to leases to drill for oil — even those negotiated directly between the tribal council and the oil industry — the Bureau of Indian Affairs is required to make sure the leases meet this standard."
So this is not a straight up purchase between the reservation tribes and Oil companies. Uncle Sam and the BIA are trustees. In the case of the Osage, they won and won big in court...although the attorneys got theirs.
These fraudulent transactions are not how an American should treat the first people. Unlike what some posters indicated, this is NOT good business when you leave victims in the wake.
[Edited by: LetemEatCake at 2/24/2013 6:41:14 PM EST]
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ktbaeohana

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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2013 2:51:45 PM
not surprise. watch and see.
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PDQBlues

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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2013 1:28:53 PM
Another case of unscrupulous corporate executives screwing over Native Americans. Hopefully justice will be served.
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rjojo40AL

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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2013 9:43:45 AM
bunch of dumb asses white man drills the oil and Native Americans get money in court...LOL
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drpepperTX

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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2013 8:31:00 AM
Allegedly.
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MidNJ

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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2013 6:55:33 AM
Humblepie, it is about making money and profits for the oil companies, not giving fair value to the original owners, right?
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CityCouponer

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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2013 5:56:36 AM
Manifest Destiny - the tradition continues.
WZ, I agree.
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mandoid

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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2013 5:34:44 AM
i agree with you humblepie
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Radar1992

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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2013 5:25:35 AM
Always beware when someone comes to your home offering you a deal out of no where...
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humblepie

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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2013 4:15:49 AM
if they sold the rights without coesion whats the gripe now ?
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MrLefty0706

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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2013 12:23:29 AM
Looks like corruption is running out of control in North Dakota.
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OHMS

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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2013 12:13:38 AM
Injuns doan need no stinking suits
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Vette1967

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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:44:57 PM
Greed never ends.
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wz

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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:27:35 PM
Shrewd businessmen have been pulling the same game since the beginning of money (and probably before). Their victims of choice are the uneducated masses. Our public school system is supposed to provide everyone a usable education. If the tribes (and inner-city districts) choose to not teach basic economics, their graduates will continue to fall prey to such schemes.
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NOTSOGRN

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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:26:58 PM
. . Buy low...sell high...that's the American way...
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TripleHs

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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:22:00 PM
people are getting greedy with more and more money on the table
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arinkrat17

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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:20:45 PM
Ok
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prius22

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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:18:41 PM
It's the American way.
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Mowerman08

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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:18:04 PM
very likely
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kd5kpd

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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:16:59 PM
Nothing unusual, big government at work again.
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djp071158

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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:16:12 PM
I for one, am in favor of the Indians.
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TXGasPriceSpy

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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:15:41 PM
I think, I think I'm going to throw up!!!
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mcbrownie220

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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:13:36 PM
hmmm
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mfeldstein

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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:12:22 PM
I believe it.
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spmaudio

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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:09:51 PM
@ krobp46: Yuh. I thought our government would have stopped screwing the Indians by now!
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JaegerWMeister

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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:09:37 PM
I hear the ring of legal fees
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DirtDauber

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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:09:29 PM
They don't have to sell.
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krobp46

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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:07:53 PM
Way to go Washington, screw the Indians again
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CdnLynx

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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:07:45 PM
Circle those wagons lads; we maybe experiencing another little big horn!
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Thomtec

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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:07:34 PM
Lawyers
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RENEGADEGAS

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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:06:17 PM
I would think the Native Americans have good attorneys that can handle this situation. If they are relying on this regime to protect them, they may as well hang it up.
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Ron77095

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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:05:10 PM
Really?
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abacus44

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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:04:48 PM
They could have held out for higher prices.
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nurdco

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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:02:01 PM
Just like NATIVE Hawaiians
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J Eric

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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:00:46 PM
Cheating Indians? Oh, nooooo, we would never do that. (They got to open a casino near the oilfields, though.)
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10k

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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 10:58:59 PM
if the feds were involved, i'm not surprised..too bad there are not enough oldtime indian warriors left that could swarm, and take over washington..
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MN1

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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 10:56:48 PM
SOP
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yonasb

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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 10:56:16 PM
a deal is a deal
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DrGasPain

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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 10:55:25 PM
modern day cowboys and indians !
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Rageagainsttm

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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 10:54:52 PM
Ain't that America.
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Dsin44

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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 10:53:54 PM
tipical
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probedude2

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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 10:53:32 PM
Those reservations are dirt poor, what did you expect them to do?
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Bobski13

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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 10:53:29 PM
Only in America!! I think the companies that committed this should be fined, jailed and made to pay the Native Americans the $1 Billion + interest + penalties. The law is the law and it should apply equally!!! However, it will never happen in America...the government takes and never gives back. 'Nuff said!
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grt197

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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 10:51:37 PM
OK
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unicornpmb

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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 10:51:36 PM
It will never end.
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melvindale

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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 10:51:02 PM
North American Natives being cheated out of their rights and property once again.
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grt197

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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 10:50:46 PM
OK
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silvereb

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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 10:50:29 PM
This is just wrong.
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Double_Golden

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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 10:49:02 PM
that's nothing new, it happen since 1776...
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moregas1966

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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 10:47:31 PM
typical for the usa
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