honda0105

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Message Posted: Feb 13, 2013 10:01:26 PM
at least as long as we replant trees for every taken down to make pellets, we'll be okay.
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honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Feb 13, 2013 3:56:34 AM
thankfully it's not too cold here.
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farmboyTN

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Tennessee
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 5:37:12 AM
Sounds good, but still not for me.
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StArrow68

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Oakland
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 4:50:41 AM
Another battle ground in the war over what is green enough.
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SkooterG

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 2:48:13 AM
Fascinating...... NOT.
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jrs4125

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 2:17:18 AM
Alrighty then
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bby

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 11:13:37 PM
Ok
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bston

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 8:29:33 PM
A good alternative towards saving home heating costs.
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NHLiveFree

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 3:48:25 PM
Unlike some highly opinionated dolts and mindless bigots AC-302, most Maine, Vermont, and NH residents utilize cleaner and hotter burning hardwood, like some heads here. We also use a certified stove which meets all emmissions requirements. As many here do not have the luxury or option of choosing natural gas as a heating source, we must use dirty home heating oil, similar distillate to diesel, or expensive propane which is a byproduct of crude oil refining. That is why wood has always been a heating choice in northern New England, but is usually done with some intelligence and common sense. Traits certainly lacking amongst the small number of constant political ranters and diatribers here at GB. At the least, the trees we burn here ARE a renewable energy source.
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NHLiveFree

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 3:35:31 PM
emissions requirements/standards for all wood and pellet stoves:
"Since 1988, EPA has required manufacturers of wood stoves to certify that each model line of wood stoves offered for sale in the United States comply with the EPA particulate emissions guidelines in the Clean Air Act. EPA-certified wood stoves are cleaner and more efficient than a wood stove manufactured before 1988. As part of the certification process, each wood stove model line is required to undergo emissions testing in accordance with EPA Reference Method 28 and sampling methods 5G or 5H by an EPA-accredited laboratory. Only after successfully passing these tests can a wood stove be offered for sale in the United States."
Oregon has the strictest emissions requirement at 2.0 grams/hr. in comparison to the federal's 5.0 grams/hr.
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NHLiveFree

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 3:32:09 PM
That may be very true if you purchased some of the made in China juck that Home Depot carries DesertBob. Any wood, coal, or corn fired stove can be a fire hazard. Your state and local code requirements must be followed for a proper and safe installation. Do not install anything that claims a direct vent is not required! The sawdust and scrap wood reutilization is not a bad idea D..Bob.
That grate thingy is called an auger and it feeds the pellets into the fire chamber SandeeC. You are correct that that is the one big drawback in that it requires 110 volt AC to power the auger and any air circulation fans that may be an option. Not helpful during a power failure. That is the main reason many select an efficient wood burning stove that can be used during power outages. Ck. out www.woodstove.com for the latest that even exceed the stringent Oregon standards.
One second time ex U.S. Congressman has made another fortune by establishing a wood pellet manufacturing firm, aka bio-fuel, in NH. Just google Charlie Bass of NH!
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DeserTBoB

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California
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 2:24:18 PM
Pellet stoves are filthy dirty and are a fire hazard. I know from personal experience. They're also energy hogs...it takes more fuel to process the sawdust and scrap wood into pellets than if you just used natural gas.
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EMoe57

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Jacksonville
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 1:23:14 PM
good on them
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Ebaz

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 11:02:41 AM
I wonde if it actually cheaper.
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Car54BC08

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British Columbia
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 10:36:05 AM
It may be cheaper but the pollution is probably worse.
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SandeeC

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 10:26:30 AM
One major issue with pellet stoves is that they use electricity to run the blower fan and turn the grate (or whatever they call it). We looked into getting one but the cost of the pellets plus the added cost of hydro made it unaffordable to us. Where we were living in Northern Ontario it was cheaper to go with just straight wood. But then a few years later the cost of wood had gone up so high that it wasn't worth all the work (cutting, splitting, piling, hauling it in - not to mention having to be there to fill the hungry brute all the time, all the time.
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PrepHermit

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 10:22:16 AM
Burn, baby, burn.
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pricechecker08

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 10:21:51 AM
sounds like advertizing to me?
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HEBster

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 10:17:47 AM
Good week-end to use 'em!
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bbreff

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 10:17:27 AM
OK - I do not understand as I have no cats as pets.
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Snowchoux

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 10:17:18 AM
They work great.
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Ticoman54

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Miami
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 10:17:09 AM
I'm glad I live in South Florida where heating my home is not necessary.
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CocoPaz

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Santa Barbara
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 10:15:39 AM
In some third world countries, they use animal...ah...pellets to heat their homes. Wish I could recycle my cats'...pellets. I'd never be cold again.
We are praying for the family members and friends of the victims of the cop killer in S Calif. May he turn himself in or be peacefully arrested soon. Unfortunately, I'm afraid that neither will happen.
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lippoe_sokan

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Provo
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 10:15:22 AM
I looked into pellet stoves last year at our state fair. They're quite simple to use, and quite efficient.
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Toppers

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 10:15:19 AM
They're gettin' a work-out this weekend!
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juttuniemi

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Tucson
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 10:10:48 AM
I wonder if the air pollution from pellets is different from burning logs...
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Alfied

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Riverside
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 10:10:23 AM
More waste.
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MarijkeCA

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San Bernardino
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 10:09:19 AM
Never heard of it.
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bobcatfan

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 10:07:46 AM
Never heard of these stoves. How much do pellets cost?
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marcelpr

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New Orleans
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 10:05:47 AM
"Niebling also said weather is a factor".
Really???
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Grumpy0521

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 10:05:44 AM
Even the price of a cord of wood is up.
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amerk73

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 9:59:14 AM
good
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mainenightowl

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Maine
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 9:56:00 AM
Heating oil prices are getting high enough for me to consider buying one.
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bowser12304

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 9:53:57 AM
yep, the gteed is everywhere
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teatiger

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 9:52:40 AM
Ok
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streetdesign

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 9:50:25 AM
Not my source of heat as pellet prces are not enticing enough.
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FuelBarge

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Long Island
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 9:39:53 AM
Of course you need a source of pellets and they are not free.
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jjjleblanc

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Rochester
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 8:47:14 AM
Nice alternative.
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kirzon484

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 8:38:29 AM
burn a tree or burn a dino
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skanytank

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 8:29:48 AM
Wonder WHY...just saying...
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merlinCO

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Colorado
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 8:29:04 AM
Anything to get away from oil.
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Hangnail309

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Manitoba
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 8:25:29 AM
have to use whatever works ...
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Hop1LA

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Baton Rouge
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 8:18:39 AM
Definitely better than heating oil
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bell05

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 8:15:21 AM
Never heard of them here in the deep South
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Wizrd03

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 8:14:41 AM
Had a wood stove in upstate new york years ago and it was cheaper to heat with wood as opposed to oil and oil was fairly cheap in '85
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bell013

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 8:08:46 AM
Never heard of them here in the deep South
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AC-302

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 8:07:30 AM
Interesting that the winter this year is very cold, and 2011/2012 was warmer. I also wonder what the greenies are thinking about burning wood? It pollutes terribly (too much particulate and unburned resins like creosote - which supposedly causes cancer). Are they sure they want to burn TREES?
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nwhawk

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Kansas
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 8:07:07 AM
They heat the home where gas furnace is rarely used!
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sciotosix

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 8:05:38 AM
May have to check them out.
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2962

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Omaha
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2013 8:04:32 AM
olefin.....you hit it!
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