rjhenn

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Des Moines
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 10:58:12 PM
slicerette - "Yes, Michigan is benefitting from heavy Canadian crude being piped into the $2.2 Billion Expansion of Detroit Marathon Oil Refinery. Since opening the new addition, the size of a new refinery, the cheaper Canadian Crude is being refined into gasoline for Detroit. Since opening, the price of gas in Detroit is the lowest in the state."
So why do you want to increase the price of Canadian crude by making more of it available on the world market?
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slicerette

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South Bend
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 10:18:46 PM
Yes, Michigan is benefitting from heavy Canadian crude being piped into the $2.2 Billion Expansion of Detroit Marathon Oil Refinery. Since opening the new addition, the size of a new refinery, the cheaper Canadian Crude is being refined into gasoline for Detroit. Since opening, the price of gas in Detroit is the lowest in the state.
If all that oil is to be exported, why would big oil continue to import heavy Venezuelan crude oil that costs more?
The highest ranking gov't official to claim Canadian crude will be exported is Socialist U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT)
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southrob

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Tucson
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 9:59:45 PM
dhan
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rjhenn

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Des Moines
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 9:26:19 PM
There's already too much oil going to the Gulf, where it can easily be exported. We need more to go to other parts of the country, where we need it.
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boldrph

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Topeka
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 8:34:10 PM
america loves to overbuild and then collapse
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gknee09

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Philadelphia
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 8:31:57 PM
yes, restrict exports
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SparkieMi

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Kalamazoo
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 7:28:38 PM
Chase58 hits the nail on the head!!!
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SparkieMi

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Kalamazoo
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 7:26:15 PM
Did I hear right that a Texas land owner was being sued by the Canadian Keystone owner to force her to let the pipeline go through her land?????
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Chas58

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 7:26:06 PM
The way I see it, increased pipeline capacity only gives the producers a better means of getting oil to ports where it can and will be exported. If the Fed does not take control and force the reduction of exports all of this increased pipeline capacity will mean nothing to the American consumer.
[Edited by: Chas58 at 2/18/2013 9:27:13 PM EST]
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billy44bo

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Mobile
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 6:52:08 PM
Need to have more than one place for the oil to go or one big storm and no gas for anyone.
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kd5kpd

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Texas
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 6:51:00 PM
Good luck!!
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72_Monte

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 6:48:05 PM
Move it while you can.
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jad1960

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Gary
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 6:48:05 PM
Good news.
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nimpy

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 6:40:16 PM
This is a good thing
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nigelb

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 6:39:15 PM
theschmuck gets my vote for the most appropriate name on here!
More pipelines to the Gulf means that Big Oil can export more product to the highest bidder overseas!
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f250dieselrat

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Florida
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 6:33:20 PM
of course it will be blocked another broken promise from Obi's election
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Rhino8of8

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Wisconsin
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 6:30:01 PM
More and more pipelines... more and more stock... and gas prices rise.
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theschmuck

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 6:29:04 PM
The 'dictator' and his boys will always try to block any progress that will help the people of this country, time to remove him.
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Buickdriver7

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 6:27:51 PM
OK
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traumer

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 6:25:42 PM
Do it now!
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Ebaz

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 6:23:45 PM
Patreaus should lay this pipe
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iamforiu

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 6:21:16 PM
do it
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pliskin

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Syracuse
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 6:19:13 PM
Planned, don't they mean dreams done behind Obama's back!
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bbreff

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 6:19:09 PM
The problem is that there is no line from Canada to connect with the Keystone in Oklahoma.
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stueyAZ

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 6:18:17 PM
Now thats a good thing.
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RQCraig

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Texas
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 6:17:36 PM
Put em in
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skb69sa

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San Antonio
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 6:17:12 PM
Ok
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darkknight1

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Winston-Salem
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 6:15:25 PM
ok
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Mowerman08

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Milwaukee
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 6:15:24 PM
build a pipe from the West to East
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ShabbyPA

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 6:11:55 PM
well good
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Guapo29

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 6:11:13 PM
A female land holder in Texas is holding the Keystone project hostage by not letting it cross her land. Greenie wienee !
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TheHermit

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Maine
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 6:10:45 PM
Isn't that nice and pretty on paper.
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rawdog1313

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 6:09:37 PM
Stop Oil Speculation and build more refineries!
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Medic55

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Columbia
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 6:09:27 PM
I'm not even sure 10 more refineries would cause gas prices to drop.
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BigDartMike

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 6:06:37 PM
BUILD MORE REFINIERIES!
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Lizzylou

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Stockton
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 6:06:02 PM
AGREE not helping with current gas prices!
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papakoca

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Texas
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 6:06:01 PM
There's more energy in moving gun control legislation than getting any pipeline approved.
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rf6480

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Miami
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 6:05:34 PM
hopefully this helps lower gas prices
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mrselfdestruct

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Arkansas
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 6:05:07 PM
Won't matter, dollar is dropping too
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mplato

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Columbia
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 6:02:13 PM
at least this creates jobs
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Perk08

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Houston
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 6:00:43 PM
Price will go up irregardless.
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Hop1LA

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Baton Rouge
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 6:00:15 PM
Why is the oil going to the gulf? Seems like the oil is going in the wrong direction.
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downstream

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Little Rock
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 5:58:56 PM
risk goes up, prices do too.
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jcotaxi

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South Bend
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 5:57:39 PM
The EPA is nothing more than a joke.
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my97jeep

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Washington
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 5:56:07 PM
can't build pipelines fast enough. Push the goverment aside & build the damn things!
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fueldrinkerOH

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 5:56:07 PM
These pipelines just bring more refined products to the world markets for trade, while adding more risk to our environment. They are doing absolutely nothing to reducing the prices we pay in America; they just make some more money. As the currencies in other countries become stronger than the U.S. Dollar, you can just expect to keep paying more.
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DarthDadJr

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 5:54:27 PM
Another suspect web site...
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vibdata

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Massachusetts
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 5:54:20 PM
I thought the Keystone was still up in the air. Guess it's well underway. They just go right ahead despite any possible future stoppage.
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ddor

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 5:50:29 PM
Ok
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rampower80

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 5:48:49 PM
Obummer, get off your duff and quit playing golf with Tiger and get this done.
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