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Speed camera vendor under scrutiny as Chicago plans tests

Chicago Tribune -- Even as Chicago prepares to test speed cameras next week, problems in Baltimore's 3-year-old camera program are raising questions about one of the bidders for Mayor Rahm Emanuel's controversial proposal that could target speeders in school and park zones over half the city.

Xerox State & Local Solutions Inc., one of two firms selected by the Emanuel administration to test cameras in Chicago, has come under scrutiny in recent months for faulty equipment and thousands of erroneous tickets issued in Baltimore over the past three years.

Judges sided with motorists in more than half of the contested tickets examined in a Nov. 18 investigative report by The Baltimore Sun, which like the Chicago Tribune is owned by Tribune Co. The report followed months of complaints and controversy about Balti

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,650 Points:1,612,445 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 10:18:54 PM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse I see cameras flashing w/ no one over the line.
eschroth442 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:1,089 Points:334,695 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 7:18:26 AM Ignore eschroth442 Report Abuse they retime the lights to make more cash. These companies need tickets to make money.
remay Champion Author Houston Posts:6,978 Points:2,119,565 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 4:47:01 AM Ignore remay Report Abuse If people would just obey the laws...
jrs4125 Champion Author Indiana Posts:2,773 Points:594,670 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 4:41:57 AM Ignore jrs4125 Report Abuse Profit is the motive for these vendors..... not safety.
rwsb30 All-Star Author Dayton Posts:559 Points:112,680 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 10:11:53 PM Ignore rwsb30 Report Abuse Say CHEESE !...Actually I saw an article recently about a license plate frame which flashes back at the camera when it tries to record your license number,destroys the photo.
OOXXFF Champion Author Greensboro Posts:3,073 Points:1,081,355 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 9:58:49 PM Ignore OOXXFF Report Abuse What is going on in the windy city?
wayoung56 Champion Author Alabama Posts:2,815 Points:821,260 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 9:58:12 PM Ignore wayoung56 Report Abuse Just a revenue creating option so they don't need actual patrolmen that require a payroll and benefits...
nimpy Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:8,150 Points:1,704,030 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 9:56:29 PM Ignore nimpy Report Abuse I agree savalot
jrsva Champion Author Virginia Posts:9,866 Points:1,615,135 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 9:56:13 PM Ignore jrsva Report Abuse Traffic cameras are mostly a scam and most of the money goes to the camera company, not to the municipality. I’d just as soon be shut of them.
SavALot Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:8,484 Points:1,714,535 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 9:52:29 PM Ignore SavALot Report Abuse money grabbing schemers here
HailstormCA Champion Author San Diego Posts:7,865 Points:1,473,970 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 9:51:35 PM Ignore HailstormCA Report Abuse Until they actually put cameras on intersections where gridlock occurs steadily, and based solely on the occurrence of accidents it's merely an income scheme.
nwsynthetics Champion Author Oregon Posts:1,014 Points:347,625 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 9:47:22 PM Ignore nwsynthetics Report Abuse great
camel1 Champion Author Minnesota Posts:8,280 Points:2,268,565 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 9:45:48 PM Ignore camel1 Report Abuse ok
melvindale Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,438 Points:351,230 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 9:43:58 PM Ignore melvindale Report Abuse They need them everywhere, and for running red lights and stop signs as well. People drive so bad around here, its getting to be like the Wild West - where you can die any moment from stray bullets, run away horses, or idiots driving 50 in a 25 zone and running the stop signs. Of course, we wouldn't need them if the police did their jobs. Locally they think their job is park 5 police cars at one diner and stay there the entire shift. I guess those donuts were out of control...
Harry813 Champion Author Iowa Posts:3,020 Points:664,790 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 9:41:41 PM Ignore Harry813 Report Abuse It's all about the Benjamins
mstearno Champion Author Dayton Posts:8,080 Points:1,734,140 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 9:41:24 PM Ignore mstearno Report Abuse speed cameras help prevent accidents let the idiots get tickets they deserve it
preacherjohn Champion Author Modesto Posts:3,998 Points:1,921,670 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 9:40:43 PM Ignore preacherjohn Report Abuse Persons issuing tickets should be checked also.
WIPACKERFAN Champion Author Chicago Posts:8,814 Points:1,845,400 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 9:39:18 PM Ignore WIPACKERFAN Report Abuse Get rid of all speed cameras. They cause more accidents.
Ebaz Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:3,261 Points:718,235 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 9:38:58 PM Ignore Ebaz Report Abuse The next stop is communal farming and communism
oldiesman Champion Author New York Posts:6,440 Points:2,196,695 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 9:37:35 PM Ignore oldiesman Report Abuse Who do they know?
bvrbill Champion Author Eugene Posts:3,238 Points:520,800 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 9:36:08 PM Ignore bvrbill Report Abuse Not a fan of cameras.
OGW Champion Author London Posts:5,334 Points:1,534,725 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 9:32:24 PM Ignore OGW Report Abuse I do not support speeding anywhere or at any time but photo radar is one thing only , it is a money grab and not a safety issue. If you have a speeding problem, put more cops on the road in that area and catch the speeders before they kill someone! Getting a ticket in the mail a month later does not have the impact or affect on the driver as a cruiser pulling them over at the time of the infraction.
Mowerman08 Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:4,770 Points:1,219,945 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 9:31:50 PM Ignore Mowerman08 Report Abuse that's the one Chicago will pick
ItsMorph Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:33,452 Points:3,188,105 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 9:29:19 PM Ignore ItsMorph Report Abuse Just like a Democrat: tax the heck out of them, then try to control them in every other way possible.
Baron62nd Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,036 Points:1,673,040 Joined:Sep 2007	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 9:27:56 PM Ignore Baron62nd Report Abuse Chicago, the curse of Illinois.
antur Champion Author Chicago Posts:6,875 Points:1,450,820 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 9:27:45 PM Ignore antur Report Abuse Suckers.
angelofdeath324 Rookie Author Ohio Posts:16 Points:82,770 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 9:25:47 PM Ignore angelofdeath324 Report Abuse speed cameras are BS I hate them they need to get rid of them stupid shitzzz
MG_Sputnik Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:7,320 Points:1,963,330 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 9:24:47 PM Ignore MG_Sputnik Report Abuse More government intervention.
Palantas All-Star Author Indianapolis Posts:803 Points:415,345 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 9:24:23 PM Ignore Palantas Report Abuse Those cameras should be illegal.
hpow Rookie Author Vancouver Posts:85 Points:18,850 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 9:24:22 PM Ignore hpow Report Abuse yes
FlogNut Champion Author Chicago Posts:104,395 Points:1,991,350 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 9:20:12 PM Ignore FlogNut Report Abuse They're just looking for more money so they can continue to go out and buy votes!
naspa Champion Author Cleveland Posts:1,286 Points:355,075 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 9:19:19 PM Ignore naspa Report Abuse Great! Folks in Chicago "hardly" pay taxes, so why not punish them to the brim for living there. if Chicago doesn't have $ is the crocker system they have, not the people who are already taxed on everything exept air .... for the time being.
abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:7,937 Points:1,577,905 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 9:19:08 PM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse faulty equipment---kind of blows their value
Go4EVA Sophomore Author Houston Posts:186 Points:66,320 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 9:16:25 PM Ignore Go4EVA Report Abuse Let he who has never sped cast the first speeding ticket.... Cops are typically the worst speeders, but they do not face consequences that the rest of us do!!
flyfast Champion Author Kansas City Posts:9,263 Points:1,827,985 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 9:13:50 PM Ignore flyfast Report Abuse all about making money
joeschmo12 Champion Author New York Posts:1,032 Points:308,395 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 9:12:07 PM Ignore joeschmo12 Report Abuse we have something like that here.. it's called crooked cops.
WIWalt Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:1,741 Points:418,470 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 9:10:11 PM Ignore WIWalt Report Abuse Well stated ProRouge Well.. yes, of COURSE it's all about the money! ..and I, for one, certainly don't mind allowing dangerous drivers to ease the tax burden, if only just a little.
DEG Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:17,635 Points:3,497,630 Joined:Jul 2003	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 9:07:15 PM Ignore DEG Report Abuse There should be published standards for the minimum length of yellow lights so that motorists aren't unfairly squeezed for revenues. In general, I have no problems with speed cameras or red-light cameras.
gsayeg1 All-Star Author Milwaukee Posts:795 Points:140,915 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 9:06:27 PM Ignore gsayeg1 Report Abuse The readings in WI are as good as gold
tdc007 Champion Author Lexington Posts:1,123 Points:384,805 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 9:05:06 PM Ignore tdc007 Report Abuse Revenue enhancement.
CCLighthouse Champion Author Hartford Posts:1,018 Points:215,955 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 9:01:11 PM Ignore CCLighthouse Report Abuse The problem is that you don't have to speed to get caught with some camera setups. The timings for yellow lights are being shortened in order to unfairly snag some drivers.
us4usa Champion Author Missouri Posts:6,003 Points:1,115,215 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 8:56:30 PM Ignore us4usa Report Abuse Don't speed don't pay... As for just the money, most fines are about the money...
kbierley Champion Author Dayton Posts:10,730 Points:1,415,690 Joined:Nov 2003	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 8:55:55 PM Ignore kbierley Report Abuse Money, Money, Money
sawdust1825 All-Star Author Illinois Posts:852 Points:439,355 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 8:55:08 PM Ignore sawdust1825 Report Abuse Sounds like another Chicago attempt to increase revenues anyway they can.
suzmar Champion Author Texas Posts:2,213 Points:874,085 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 8:54:11 PM Ignore suzmar Report Abuse Sounds about right, this is all about raising revenue, not public safety.
bojiway1 Champion Author Minnesota Posts:2,059 Points:481,735 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 8:53:44 PM Ignore bojiway1 Report Abuse Just like a tax
grandamgt1 Champion Author Illinois Posts:2,361 Points:1,243,250 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 8:53:42 PM Ignore grandamgt1 Report Abuse These cameras ought to be illegal. An officer should be present when a ticket is issued. (and I don't mean watching a TV screen )
30mpg80 Champion Author Lexington Posts:10,061 Points:1,489,805 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 8:53:13 PM Ignore 30mpg80 Report Abuse More than a casual glance is needed
Alfied Champion Author Riverside Posts:7,955 Points:1,758,435 Joined:Jun 2001	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 8:51:39 PM Ignore Alfied Report Abuse More $$$$$$$$$$
KhelbenArunson Champion Author Michigan Posts:4,461 Points:720,040 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 8:50:56 PM Ignore KhelbenArunson Report Abuse I think they should be outlawed.