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Tough Trucking For Natural Gas Vehicles: Can They Make It In The Long Haul?

Forbes -- A vast abundance of American natural gas resources, now accessible thanks to “fracking”, affords a tantalizingly large and economically-competitive new automotive fuel opportunity. While not perfect, which almost nothing ever is, its utilization, both for heavy-duty transport and for family vehicles, can potentially afford real economies.

Right now, the largest impediment is a “chicken v. egg” conundrum. Market demand for the vehicles will hinge upon creating a satisfactory refueling infrastructure, which, in turn, must be justified by market demand. Can such development occur incrementally in the marketplace of free enterprise? If it truly makes practical sense, I believe it can…and should.

First, let’s take a closer look at the present situation.

There are two natural gas fuel options


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spiderjay
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 4:35:12 PM

dont see it
fuel2use
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 10:01:18 AM

Good information.
BigTruc
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 9:51:26 AM

WE need to use Natural Gas for transportation.
fora_7
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 7:37:39 AM

What about winter problems, with snow and cold weather???
tbgasmizer
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 6:47:51 AM

The cost to convert to natural gas is very little but they charge an exorbitant amount to convert over.
zwsn01
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 6:29:34 AM

I'm ready. Put one of those CNG stations near my house and I'm converting.
bell05
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 6:01:49 AM

I don't know enough about this.
2khawk
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:39:52 AM

At almost $4.00 per thousand therms it is not so affordable.
goalie1950
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:35:51 AM

CNG/LNG is a more practical energy source than EV and hybrid alternatives.
calripken_8
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:33:44 AM

Natural gas has a better chance to succeed than electric, doesn't take 4 hours to refill a CNG vehicle.
JimL1
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:33:41 AM

We shall see. Which way is Warren betting?
skanytank
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:33:28 AM

Conversion expense will decrease...just not yet...just saying...
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:32:33 AM

Biilding infrastructure is always initially expensive.
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:32:14 AM

Much better chance with nat gas than electric.
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:31:04 AM

ok
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:30:43 AM

OK
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:29:04 AM

The conversion is too expensive.
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:27:18 AM

Lets settle on one and get on with it.
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:25:52 AM

It can be done.
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We'll see...
alwaysridin88
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:25:12 AM

Will offer trucks at $11,000 options? This will negate a significant amount of savings on gas.
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:25:08 AM

The almighty dollar will sort this out.
marinedad1949
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:25:05 AM

Interesting article that is sure to stir some heated debate!
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:23:37 AM

Hadn't thought about CNG trucks before. Interesting
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:23:31 AM

At some point greed will kick in and raise the costs
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:22:37 AM

Unfortunately, there will always be a 'demand' for oil.
racerdj
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:22:29 AM

Refueling stations have to be in place before buyers will buy the trucks. This is an area where Government money will work and have paybacks.
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:21:54 AM

NYC taxis sounds like a plan.
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:21:26 AM

Supply and demand.
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:20:37 AM

Let them start with taxi fleets in New York first. That will give natural gas vehicles a good trial.
packards42
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:20:05 AM

yes, we need to make it happen we spending 1-.6 trillion in give a ways anyway, let put in natural intrastructurs.
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:19:56 AM

just make natural gas affordable...
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:19:46 AM

ok
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:19:29 AM

Produce enough natural gas vehicles and some one will fill the need for refueling stations.
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:19:05 AM

good
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:18:50 AM

The premium paid for CNG and LNG vehicles cannot be made up by gasoline savings. Toyota has figured this out but Obama's administration still touts the all electric car and this has been a failure. Again get government out of the way.
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:17:23 AM

ok
ncclyde
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:15:30 AM

same issues they had back in the 70s, which is why it never took off then.
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:13:51 AM

Difficult situation. People won't buy unless there's enough fuel and business won't supply enough until there are enough customers. My guess is this -- it's not going to fly do to unwillingness on both sides.
Valricoslash
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:13:20 AM

I have been saying this for the last few years. without a netowrk of fueling stations you will not be selling very many CNG vehicles. Of course without a mrket for the CNG they will not be developing the netowrk. Here is one place wher governmetn interference may prove usefule, by directing the gas and oil industry to develop the network to be completed withing the next five years. Then CNG vehicle production will take off and probably surpass standard gasoline engines and hybrids.
swede
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:13:14 AM

We just need to expand the number of nat gas filling stations across the country.
bumpygas
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:13:00 AM

Don't look for the natural gas autos to be very popular until the auto makers stop gouging the consumer for building an engine that runs on natural gas just to fill their own pockets. Just look at what they have been doing to the electric powered car.
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:12:36 AM

Meh!
silverfoxv65
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:11:51 AM

Prices make a big difference.
harleydoctor
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:11:44 AM

Obama will fight this trend, he still wants algae fuel.....fool.
Costello
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:11:11 AM

Need to find ways tomake it work...
Marson
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:09:56 AM

Natural gas will flourish as a motor fuel.
rtw777
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:08:21 AM

Just trying to make things difficult.
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:08:02 AM

Wait and see
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:07:34 AM

ok
fishgaro
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 5:07:20 AM

remember when diesel was cheap?
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