KAR120CSII

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Oregon
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 2:59:23 PM
Thanks again -- it's been going on in WVa for over 150 years -- and the mining folks have been getting it for all that time. Nothing new whether it's the owners or the governments.
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LetemEatCake

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2013 8:07:59 PM
Good one Teslukbla!
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NedW

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 11:06:08 PM
Thank you for submitting this article, Teslukbla.
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52MPG

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 10:27:21 PM
From Al Jazerra ???
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teafortwo

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Washington
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 9:35:53 PM
Good comment Joeski1. This area is unfortunately stuck in a time warp. The industry still controls and dictates most aspects of life and there are almost no other jobs.
West Virginia and the Appalachian Mountains has been financially depressed for a long time. Especially after the monster coal industry realized it is cheaper and faster to just blast the tops off the mountains to get at the coal seams. Strip mining, AKA mountain top removal does not employ nearly as many workers as deep mining for coal.
Fewer workers and a faster (albeit, extremely destructive) process, while ignoring safety regulations means bigger profits for the coal barons. Of course, as most greedy industries do, they blame the EPA and any disliked political figure for the loss of jobs. These big greed industries see no reason to acknowledge to the general public that greed for bigger profits is what motivates most of their "business" decisions. Earning million$$$ in profits while paying what amounts to only pennies in fines? Business as usual for the big greed coal, oil & gas.
The oil, gas and coal industries have no interest in how much toxic waste they spill or dump. No interest in the amount of health problems they create and leave in their wake.
The coal industry could have cleaned up their act long ago, but sees no reason to bother.
This is actually a well written article worth the read for those interested in learning more about the situation.
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Joeski1

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 6:58:10 AM
In WV, towns are consumed by coal....
they literally get eaten up and spit out in the coal mountains as they are blasted away for the black....
nothing left but the bodies of the departed in small cemeteries atop what's left of small hills accessible only by twisting turning roads in the middle of the coal mine areas after recieving permission to visit by the coal authorities...
[Edited by: Joeski1 at 1/31/2013 8:58:42 AM EST]
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12mpgnavigator

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Seattle
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 5:53:02 AM
coal is dead
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bar1035

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Charlotte
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 5:13:14 AM
The people of West Virginia don't like the current administration. Look at the election results
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virostek

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 5:10:28 AM
OK.
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jimraehl

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Utah
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 4:59:04 AM
Too many government regulations for coal.
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walkerms1

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Albany
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 4:50:05 AM
Hey, they voted for obama. They got obama. And now they get his tax funded lifetime welfare programs... Why work when you can vote for handouts.
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celtic14

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Florida
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 4:49:32 AM
This is part of Obozo's "fundamental transformation". "Flyover country" descends into permanent depression, while in DC filthy-rich federal bureaucrats buy $300K Lamborghinis with cash.
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jeskibuff

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 4:45:57 AM
nstrdnvstr said: "I just don't understand why they voted for Obama and Biden when they knew this would be coming from this administration."
"'cause Romney he suck. I has got me a Obamaphone"
Sometimes you just can't overcome the power of stupidity.
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fordfan1

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 4:37:21 AM
This is too bad to hear about a once strong industry being destroyed by the lies and a hoaxes being spread in the name of climate change!!!! Just remember some of you voted for this back in November and you will now have to pay for it now and over the next 4 years!!!! I certainly hope that that hopey changey thing works out for ya!!!!!!
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leeac

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 4:36:25 AM
Coal is dirty and expensive compared to natural gas. This is an unpleasant truth.
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pitamon

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Philadelphia
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 4:34:50 AM
Just build clean coal plants.
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Jeffro61

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 4:34:27 AM
Obama looking to kill more jobs.
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WR-INC

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 4:34:17 AM
Al Jazerra?
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mandoid

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Colorado Springs
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 4:32:46 AM
another good comment wegman
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nb52

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 4:32:22 AM
Low information voters and the consequences.
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jeskibuff

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 4:31:52 AM
JagXKR said: "The eco terrorist president is going to have a rough 4 years."
Au contraire. He and Moochelle will be doing just fine. It's the rest of us who will suffer from his idiocy.
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FPLREP

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 4:29:29 AM
What is the plan? more Solyndra's?
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jeskibuff

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 4:29:04 AM
A surprisingly even-handed article out of Al Jazeera. If you didn't know any better, it appears that they care about the issues.
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kobes1

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Florida
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 4:28:41 AM
OBOY doesn't want it and all the news will spin it for him
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blueeye

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 4:28:32 AM
Clean coal is this way to go
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bbreff

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 4:27:58 AM
I do not trust OBUMA with anything.
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prcoqui

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 4:26:01 AM
You have to adapt with the times or perish. It's all greed; companies need to spend money cleaning the junk that comes out the coal fire plants but they don't want to spend the money.
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keithyoon1977

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 4:25:28 AM
ok
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jppezz

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New Mexico
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 4:25:05 AM
Lets impeach Obama and get America back to being a great nation once again.
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tekguy

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Pittsburgh
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 4:25:00 AM
Consider the source
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csnvcas

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 4:24:51 AM
Interesting
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D4444J

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Albuquerque
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 4:24:25 AM
The rest of the world wants our coal. So let's keep it up!
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Clayton2000

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 4:23:38 AM
Not good for them
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sydb7

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 4:23:36 AM
Coal is not the answer, Let's develop another (non-fossil) source of fuel!
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wegman

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 4:22:40 AM
Al Jazerra!?!? Islamic propaganda arm HERE????
Bad.
That said, the Luddite Green Left's war on coAl has human casuAlties. Cost benefit anAlysis of new rules should become law.
And the EPA should be abolished.
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Ringmaster2008

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 4:22:09 AM
Time will tell
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Badmoon

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Massachusetts
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 4:22:02 AM
Can't have it both ways.
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dhawk24

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Maine
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 4:20:31 AM
Coal is dirty. Exporting it works for me.
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nstrdnvstr

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 4:19:41 AM
Oh, the future is certain. Obama and Biden said they would bankrupt the coal companies. So the employees will all lose their jobs. I just don't understand why they voted for Obama and Biden when they knew this would be coming from this administration.
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sawdust1825

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 4:19:40 AM
Coal will be back.
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RichWLIN

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 4:19:39 AM
Consider the source.
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forderjunk

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Maine
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 4:18:52 AM
People who think "oh, that's the way it's always been and that's the way it will continue to be'." Seriously need to get their heads out of the coal dust.
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2parrots

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Massachusetts
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 4:18:32 AM
Obummer is anti-coal. So export it to China to help balance the trade deficit
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cheapertvs

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Richmond
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 4:17:47 AM
We will see a time when coal can and will be used again. In the interim, there are technological bumps to surmount in the pollution arena. The answer is not "Lets relax the burdensome regulation" as many Republicans seem to repeat ad nauseum.
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NJColt

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 4:17:40 AM
Don't do ANYTHING for another 4 years you PEZ head!
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Ferdman17

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Albany
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 4:17:36 AM
Better start looking for another job.
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76chevy

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Toledo
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 4:17:26 AM
Yes it is "greener" to export coal to countries like China who do such a better job of burning it cleaner.?!
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heartbroken2010

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Ottawa
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 4:16:35 AM
this could be interesting to watch the outcome of this.
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Zuman

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New York
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 4:16:02 AM
As the annioted one said " Electric will necessarily skyrocket" . We are screwed.
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skippypa

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Hawaii
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 4:15:02 AM
We export a lot of coal
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